2.80	5.58	A:	[JERRY] Yeah, I had an old plug that I could shoot from. 
5.58	7.76	A:	[JERRY] I ((did)) nothing ((to)) upset him.
8.04	10.63	A:	[LABOV] Well, you're just that uh -- that steady.
10.64	11.13	A:	[JERRY] Right.
12.77	14.31	A:	[LABOV] You ever shoot from a Jeep?
14.23	15.10	A:	[JERRY] Yeah.
15.10	18.55	A:	[JERRY] That's way I hunt jackrabbits from Jeep, ((out in)) --
18.49	19.89	A:	[LABOV] You don't have coyotes out here.
18.55	19.77	A:	[JERRY] ((it's n-))
19.77	22.34	A:	[JERRY] Naw, we had them out on Rio Grande country.
22.34	23.36	A:	[JERRY] Had a few.
23.71	24.95	A:	[LABOV] Um.
24.20	26.26	A:	[JERRY] I didn't kill but about six ((of them)).
26.24	27.23	A:	[LABOV] What about bobcat?
27.32	29.11	A:	[JERRY] I've killed several of them. 
29.11	30.36	A:	[JERRY] We have quite a few around here.
30.36	33.10	A:	[JERRY] My brother caught one, in fact. Yeah.
31.92	32.34	A:	[LABOV] Oh, yeah?
33.10	36.02	A:	[JERRY] Is- -- ah -- well, about sixteen miles from here. 
36.02	39.06	A:	[JERRY] ((On a)) aunt and uncles of mine's place out here. 
39.06	40.11	A:	[JERRY] He uh -- 
40.11	42.78	A:	[JERRY] him and my cousin were out rounding up --
42.78	45.47	A:	[JERRY] rounding sheep or something on horses, 
45.47	50.12	A:	[JERRY] and there was a mamma and two kitten. Well, it was about hal- -- it was a pretty good size, then 
50.12	56.32	A:	[JERRY] And it was up in tree, and my brother, he is a dead shot with a rock, and, boy, he got that one right in the head with a rock.
56.32	60.31	A:	[JERRY] Put him over his horse. How he ever got it on the horse, I never have figured out.
60.31	63.73	A:	[JERRY] Put it over and rout- -- rode in with him, across the saddle there in his lap.
63.73	66.41	A:	[JERRY] And when that bobcat come to, ((he was)) petting it.
67.07	71.39	A:	[JERRY] And he had it -- in fact that scar right there come from that very bobcat.
70.60	72.08	A:	[LABOV] ((Goddamn.))
71.39	75.26	A:	[JERRY] He had him in two days riding on his shoulder and following him like a kitten.
75.26	79.52	A:	[JERRY] And I've never -- never seen it before in my life, but that's it.
75.96	76.60	A:	[LABOV] ((Okay.))
79.52	85.25	A:	[JERRY] And I reached up to pet him, and he was on my brother's shoulder. I was going rub his head, and I did all right.
85.25	86.80	A:	[JERRY] (( )).
85.77	87.83	A:	[LABOV] How long did that bobcat stay tame?
87.70	90.17	A:	[JERRY] Well, my brother had him for about
90.17	91.41	A:	[JERRY] a month.
91.41	95.32	A:	[JERRY] That's when we was living over at Leakey. And we had him on a ranch over there.
95.32	96.58	A:	[JERRY] And uh
96.58	99.95	A:	[JERRY] he had him about a month. Give him to the science teacher
99.95	101.63	A:	[JERRY] at school.
101.63	103.53	A:	[JERRY] And then I don't know what happened to him.
103.48	105.47	A:	[LABOV] ((Oh, I reckon he was)) a mean creature. He was young.
105.02	106.61	A:	[JERRY] He (( )). Yeah.
106.61	107.62	A:	[JERRY] He was male.
107.53	110.64	A:	[LABOV] ((Now, do yo- -- )) ((Now, that's)) big coon country ((here)), isn't it?
110.64	112.10	A:	[LABOV] You got ((these)) ringtailed --
111.90	114.00	A:	[JERRY] Ringtail. Coons.
112.10	113.15	A:	[LABOV] coon?
113.15	114.48	A:	[LABOV] ((Racoon)).
114.48	116.71	A:	[LABOV] (( )) 
115.32	116.25	A:	[JERRY] (( )).
121.35	123.03	A:	[JERRY] I never did use dogs.
123.03	125.07	A:	[JERRY] Mm mm.
123.21	123.63	A:	[LABOV] ((Huh.))
125.07	127.27	A:	[JERRY] I just (( )) headlight them.
127.91	129.21	A:	[JERRY] ((Use the light)).
128.98	132.52	A:	[LABOV] Well, around here you tree a coon, but do you also (( )) ((these crevices)).
131.23	132.05	A:	[JERRY] I don- --
132.05	135.53	A:	[JERRY] Uh. I go back in -- like going ((in a hollow)) or something.
135.53	136.77	A:	[JERRY] You know, ((in side of the hill)).
136.77	138.70	A:	[JERRY] (( )) up with a spring or something.
138.70	144.97	A:	[JERRY] Lot of times you'll catch them drinking or most of time you can just sh- shine up in trees and you'll see their eyes and go shoot ((them out)).
144.87	145.34	A:	[LABOV] Yeah.
144.97	147.07	A:	[JERRY] ((I mean)) uh don't chase them.
147.07	149.02	A:	[JERRY] (( )) they'll just be up there.
149.03	152.77	A:	[LABOV] Some places they uh shoot them out of trees with a twenty-two ((pistol)).
153.14	155.30	A:	[JERRY] Well, I have used twenty-two and
155.30	156.87	A:	[JERRY] uh if I wanted to 
156.87	158.54	A:	[JERRY] you know, sell the hides --
159.53	163.83	A:	[JERRY] well, a lot of time, when I worked on one ranch, ((that)) we would just kill them, because there just too many.
163.83	166.32	A:	[JERRY] (( )) get in ((the chickens)) and everything.
166.32	168.48	A:	[JERRY] And ((but if fur)) --
168.48	170.91	A:	[JERRY] if you want to sell their hides,
170.91	175.22	A:	[JERRY] and s- -- I try to shoot them in the head with a twenty-two. That way you won't ((ruin their)) --
175.22	177.61	A:	[JERRY] you know, ((you can't)) (( )) --
176.25	178.26	A:	[LABOV] (( )) get a buck and a half for coon.
177.61	179.28	A:	[JERRY] Hm?
178.26	179.42	A:	[LABOV] You only get a bu- --
179.28	184.73	A:	[JERRY] I don't know what it is. I heard it was up last year. Here, I -- I don't know. I was gone.
184.74	186.77	A:	[LABOV] ((Wow,)) some guys really tear around here.
187.71	190.29	A:	[JERRY] Yeah, they run around pretty fast in this town.
192.24	194.46	A:	[LABOV] Well, (( )), did you ever get in a spot where you --
194.46	197.03	A:	[LABOV] you thought you really going get killed? ((Ever happen))?
199.01	200.38	A:	[JERRY] Yeah. Hm.
200.63	201.62	A:	[LABOV] How did you get into it?
201.37	204.65	A:	[JERRY] Well, I -- I was down in Houston, where I got --
206.05	209.59	A:	[JERRY] ((well,)) twice. In fact, once when I was little and the river got up.
210.48	213.90	A:	[JERRY] And -- it was in fifty-five. Had a big flood.
213.90	217.05	A:	[JERRY] And me and my brother were walking along the bank.
217.05	219.68	A:	[JERRY] And he fell in. The bank give away with him.
219.68	224.96	A:	[JERRY] And I saw his head bob up way down. He just went under, and his head come up. And I jumped in. ((I w- --))
224.96	230.36	A:	[JERRY] Fifty-five. Let's see, I was born in forty-nine. I about six. I learned how to swim when I was four.
230.36	233.48	A:	[JERRY] (( )) We was raised right there on the creek.
233.48	234.49	A:	[JERRY] And
234.49	236.18	A:	[JERRY] he uh
236.18	241.18	A:	[JERRY] was going downriver. He didn't know how to swim too well. He is older than me, but he never did learn.
241.18	244.17	A:	[JERRY] And I took off. Just jumped in, you know.
244.17	245.39	A:	[JERRY] Went after him.
245.39	251.35	A:	[JERRY] And I thought I never was going get out of that. Because tha- -- it was only about a twenty foot rise. It was up pretty high.
254.91	256.95	A:	[JERRY] Here comes the fuzz.
256.95	259.75	A:	[JERRY] He is pretty good old boy. I ((don't know what he wants)).
262.12	265.67	A:	[JERRY] You just well get in ((our intimate)) conas- -- conversation.
266.04	266.83	A:	[FRIEND] ((Who's your friend?))
266.77	267.43	A:	[JERRY] Huh?
267.43	268.67	A:	[JERRY] ((Say y- --))
267.95	269.02	A:	[LABOV] Oh, r- --
272.09	275.12	A:	[LABOV] Talking about fishing, hunting, that's my business.
275.12	277.23	A:	[LABOV] So ah figured we --
277.52	278.69	A:	[FRIEND] (( ))
278.74	282.28	A:	[LABOV] I go interviewing people about fishing and hunting and
282.28	285.22	A:	[LABOV] ranching. Just whatever ((thing they)) learn outside of school.
285.22	287.64	A:	[LABOV] (( )) ((study of)) common sense.
288.52	293.62	A:	[LABOV] I work with this outfit in Washington that figures that schools isn't teaching anybody anything anyhow.
293.62	296.11	A:	[LABOV] ((So we)) might as well find out how to learn things on their own.
296.40	297.30	A:	[FRIEND] ((Is that right?))
297.88	301.84	A:	[JERRY] Well, tha- -- I ((told him that is)) all I ever learned (( )).
303.05	304.36	A:	[LABOV] I uh --
304.36	307.78	A:	[LABOV] I've been all through Arizona and New Mexico and I'm travelling through Texas now.
307.78	309.44	A:	[LABOV] And uh
309.44	311.64	A:	[LABOV] turns out lot of the fellows uh
311.64	314.49	A:	[LABOV] ((about Jerry's)) age are working all night stations. 
314.49	315.46	A:	[LABOV] Summer.
315.46	318.96	A:	[LABOV] So uh, fact I'm even thinking of travelling two, three in the morning,
318.96	321.32	A:	[LABOV] sleeping during the day, because uh
321.32	322.70	A:	[LABOV] lot of guys
322.70	324.87	A:	[LABOV] just have the time (( )) talk.
329.43	331.27	A:	[JERRY] Well, ((how is it --))
330.29	332.59	A:	[FRIEND] (( )) hunting you do?
332.57	333.43	A:	[LABOV] Well,
334.55	336.95	A:	[LABOV] I haven't done too much until recently.
336.95	338.48	A:	[LABOV] I have also been 
338.48	340.90	A:	[LABOV] talking to fishermen, trappers up in Maine.
340.90	343.41	A:	[LABOV] And uh now (( )),
343.41	346.67	A:	[LABOV] ((I'm)) trying to get more interesting in hunting myself.
348.55	349.86	A:	[LABOV] See these?
349.86	352.00	A:	[LABOV] Supposed ((to be)) rich man's (( )).
352.05	352.94	A:	[FRIEND] (( ))
356.19	359.31	A:	[LABOV] I ((ended up with a lot of)) commercial fishermen, ((you know)), out on the ocean.
359.31	360.79	A:	[LABOV] And uh
362.65	364.27	A:	[LABOV] you can really uh
365.51	367.79	A:	[LABOV] learn a lot from them, except uh
368.58	370.75	A:	[LABOV] it's a miserable way to earn a living.
377.21	381.38	A:	[JERRY] I just fish to get away from people. Get out on the creek.
380.81	383.25	A:	[FRIEND] (( ))
383.66	385.40	A:	[LABOV] ((Someone down here about)) --
385.40	387.01	A:	[LABOV] Oh.
386.94	390.91	A:	[JERRY] We went down towards Rocksprings the other morning. We saw a bobcat
390.91	392.93	A:	[JERRY] and a 
392.93	399.01	A:	[JERRY] funniest deer. Now, I have never seen a deer like that one in my life. It was a doe, and it was black.
400.29	403.39	A:	[JERRY] Just as black as the inner tube on one of them tires.
403.39	409.85	A:	[JERRY] And it had the funniest -- i- the head -- everything was -- it looked just completely out of proportion, but it was a deer.
409.85	413.74	A:	[JERRY] I don- -- it was a freak, ((probably off)) one of them game reserves.
410.02	410.97	A:	[LABOV] ((A freak deer.))
413.74	415.32	A:	[JERRY] More than likely.
415.87	419.52	A:	[LABOV] Yo- -- there was another ti- -- you were telling me about this one time you f- -- you fell uh -- you jumped in a river.
419.35	424.18	A:	[JERRY] Oh yeah, and I -- went down -- I bet I washed down that thing two miles.
424.18	429.16	A:	[JERRY] And then finally caught an old sycamore that was bent over and climbed out and got on the bank.
428.36	429.25	A:	[LABOV] How about your brother?
429.16	431.32	A:	[JERRY] He got out way before I did.
431.09	432.17	A:	[LABOV] You weren't much good to him.
431.97	432.67	A:	[JERRY] Huh?
432.44	433.64	A:	[LABOV] You weren't too much good to him.
433.42	435.22	A:	[JERRY] I didn't help him too much.
435.22	436.40	A:	[JERRY] And (( )) --
436.40	440.30	A:	[JERRY] ((And)) (( )) -- but in Houston, I was pulled up in service station get gas and 
440.30	441.48	A:	[JERRY] colored fellow
441.48	446.72	A:	[JERRY] walked out. He was just robbing the place, and he shot the ((attendant)) through here, and he shot me three time in the leg.
446.72	449.03	A:	[JERRY] ((That about)) four months ago.
449.03	450.34	A:	[JERRY] With twenty-two.
450.34	455.16	A:	[JERRY] And I thought I was done -- I mean, he just run out, and he saw me out there then, ((and boy)) he jus- --
455.16	456.30	A:	[JERRY] Bam bam bam.
456.21	457.15	A:	[LABOV] Eh, he panicked.
457.26	458.74	A:	[JERRY] M- -- yeah, more or less.
458.74	459.24	A:	[JERRY] But --
459.14	462.04	A:	[LABOV] That's dangerous uh -- most dangerous kind of guy. He don't know what he shooting at.
462.05	462.75	A:	[JERRY] Right.
462.75	469.14	A:	[JERRY] He just saw me and h- -- you know, he just looked up, and his eyes was all big and (( )). That was it.
468.93	469.64	A:	[LABOV] ((They)) catch him?
469.50	470.08	A:	[JERRY] Huh?
470.08	474.98	A:	[JERRY] Well, ((there's)) -- going over fence, and ((the fellow that)) pulled up behind me and caught him right back there.
474.45	475.32	A:	[LABOV] Oh.
474.98	476.81	A:	[JERRY] Blew his whole head off.
476.68	477.40	A:	[LABOV] Wow.
477.61	479.34	A:	[JERRY] They got him.
478.80	479.44	A:	[LABOV] (( )).
479.34	482.69	A:	[JERRY] And I -- I didn't cry, (( )) anybody, ((I tell you)).
482.06	485.28	A:	[LABOV] Well, I figure that you -- you could uh -- you could lose one there.
486.38	488.29	A:	[LABOV] Uh, well you got -- uh two
488.29	491.17	A:	[LABOV] three twenty-twos? You're like a friend of mine got shot there recently. ((He was held up)) --
490.20	492.54	A:	[JERRY] Er -- well, it was just through the skin.
492.37	492.96	A:	[LABOV] Oh yeah?
492.54	497.28	A:	[JERRY] And I mean, i- -- it didn't -- one of them got in probably about that deep. They all come out.
497.28	498.74	A:	[JERRY] ((And it)) --
497.43	498.19	A:	[LABOV] ((Right)).
499.11	500.71	A:	[LABOV] This guy I know who got held up.
500.71	502.91	A:	[LABOV] And he got shot with a pistol.
500.84	501.88	A:	[JERRY] (( )) 
503.61	504.77	A:	[LABOV] (( )).
504.86	506.09	A:	[JERRY] Naw, ((I don't know)).
506.09	507.58	A:	[JERRY] Yeah, I'll get it.
510.74	511.96	A:	[LABOV] You didn't feel a thing?
512.66	516.04	A:	[JERRY] ((Not for th- --)) ah, and you know, after everything over, I don't if it --
516.04	519.24	A:	[JERRY] if it's -- e- -- it's just numb, more or less, I guess.
519.24	521.05	A:	[JERRY] Or something like that.
520.31	522.37	A:	[LABOV] Well then it started to sting a little bit.
522.08	525.99	A:	[JERRY] It started y- -- it got pretty smart there after -- next day.
525.99	527.56	A:	[JERRY] (( )).
527.56	528.87	A:	[JERRY] Started hurting a little bit.
530.23	531.50	A:	[LABOV] You said you got one in here, too.
531.56	533.07	A:	[JERRY] Oh no, that was the attendant.
533.07	534.48	A:	[JERRY] Who got shot through here.
534.48	535.77	A:	[JERRY] ((Of the)) station.
534.52	534.91	A:	[LABOV] Oh.
536.64	537.81	A:	[LABOV] Well what -- uh
538.98	545.50	A:	[LABOV] I want to ask you, going back, something else I get into all the time. When you were growing up around Vance or uh (( )),
547.52	550.36	A:	[LABOV] What was a -- what was a fair fight?
550.36	552.71	A:	[LABOV] What does that mean, guy is going to give you a fair fight?
552.70	554.31	A:	[JERRY] ((Well,)) with me,
554.31	558.29	A:	[JERRY] I figured is if it was worth fighting over, it was worth winning.
558.93	562.15	A:	[JERRY] And I mean, that's my -- and it always has been.
562.15	567.71	A:	[JERRY] If I have to shoot the fellow to whip him, that's the way it goes, because -- and i- -- it's a bad way to be.
567.71	569.21	A:	[JERRY] It re- -- I believe.
570.08	571.72	A:	[JERRY] Becau- -- uh if --
571.72	573.09	A:	[JERRY] Just uh --
573.09	575.32	A:	[JERRY] well, you take two kids,
575.32	583.42	A:	[JERRY] out there with their fists, beating around each other, they're not going cripple each other up too bad. You know. And (( )). But
583.42	584.59	A:	[JERRY] I just --
585.79	589.29	A:	[LABOV] Well, figure the way th- -- how many guys were there about your age when you growing up?
589.29	592.02	A:	[LABOV] When you were uh living around Vance?
591.80	592.96	A:	[JERRY] Uh.
592.02	594.17	A:	[LABOV] Half dozen, dozen guys around?
594.25	600.23	A:	[JERRY] Right there, around where I was raised it wasn't maybe three or four more ((besides me and my brother)).
600.23	605.59	A:	[JERRY] I mean, that was down maybe four or five miles away from us. That was -- wasn't very far.
605.59	607.85	A:	[JERRY] You know, just walking distance, (( )).
607.85	609.28	A:	[JERRY] We ran all over the 
609.28	610.44	A:	[JERRY] hills.
610.44	612.85	A:	[JERRY] We always found something to do, you know.
612.82	613.56	A:	[LABOV] Yeah.
612.85	615.88	A:	[JERRY] Catch rattlesnakes or do something.
615.82	617.22	A:	[LABOV] Well, look, uh
618.02	619.45	A:	[LABOV] if you're in a fight with a guy,
619.45	620.90	A:	[LABOV] when you say anything
621.96	623.77	A:	[LABOV] to i- -- suppose he is down.
623.53	624.37	A:	[JERRY] Right.
624.74	625.77	A:	[LABOV] You going to stomp him?
626.12	628.39	A:	[JERRY] ((You mean,)) am I going ((stomp him)) now?
628.39	631.15	A:	[JERRY] Well, tha- -- that depends a lot
631.15	634.50	A:	[JERRY] on the way I am about fighting.
636.32	638.30	A:	[JERRY] A lot people get back up --
638.30	639.41	A:	[JERRY] There's my ((little girl.))
642.49	643.13	A:	[JERRY] My name is 
643.13	643.77	A:	[JERRY] #Name_suppressed#
643.77	645.47	A:	[JERRY] there are just different people call me
645.50	646.66	A:	[LABOV] ((Oh,)) your middle name?
646.67	646.98	A:	[JERRY] Yeah, 
646.98	647.44	A:	[JERRY] #Name_suppressed#
647.44	648.26	A:	[JERRY] is my middle name.
648.15	649.04	A:	[LABOV] ~W ~A ~N ~G?
649.04	649.49	A:	[JERRY] No, 
649.49	651.06	A:	[JERRY] #Name_suppressed#
651.26	652.13	A:	[LABOV] ~W ~A 
652.16	653.26	A:	[JERRY] #Name_suppressed#
653.91	655.86	A:	[LABOV] ~W ~A ~Y oh, Wayne.
655.83	656.29	A:	[JERRY] #Name_suppressed#
656.29	656.70	A:	[JERRY] yeah.
657.38	659.12	A:	[LABOV] Threw me on that one.
660.80	662.03	A:	[LABOV] So uh
662.03	663.27	A:	[LABOV] you say -- when you were in the Army?
663.05	665.74	A:	[JERRY] There was this uh guy from England
665.74	666.94	A:	[JERRY] that was --
666.94	668.93	A:	[JERRY] he had been in the 
668.93	672.66	A:	[JERRY] how he got in the United States Army, I don't have any idea, but 
672.66	674.19	A:	[JERRY] he was
674.19	677.87	A:	[JERRY] in the British Navy for five years.
677.25	677.71	A:	[LABOV] Yeah.
677.87	683.11	A:	[JERRY] And he had a lot of interesting (( )). He used his head. He butted like that.
683.14	684.04	A:	[LABOV] You saw him do it.
683.62	684.81	A:	[JERRY] In fact. Mhm. 
684.81	689.15	A:	[JERRY] An- -- and h- -- he did, he -- boy, ((you could)) pop him up. You kick him in the head, and ((you)) --
689.15	690.60	A:	[JERRY] right there and it wouldn't even
690.60	692.13	A:	[JERRY] raise a dent or nothing.
691.91	693.74	A:	[LABOV] ((Their fast fix is a)) boot in the nuts.
693.59	694.69	A:	[JERRY] Mhm.
693.74	695.73	A:	[LABOV] ((They don't know that you can move)) faster.
695.73	697.24	A:	[LABOV] Uh.
698.48	700.40	A:	[LABOV] Well, we were gettin- --
700.40	704.12	A:	[LABOV] Now, you said something about fact that you don't want a man to get up, but
704.12	707.01	A:	[LABOV] if you're living ((with a town)) --
708.33	714.35	A:	[JERRY] You know, I -- I believe it depends a lot on how serious the matter was, and you know, it really
714.35	716.22	A:	[JERRY] ((got to the)) (( )) wha- --
716.22	717.99	A:	[JERRY] how things work.
717.84	720.62	A:	[LABOV] ((Well one of the things I -- I've often asked guys is that))
721.58	725.15	A:	[LABOV] Have you ever been in fight with someone bigger than you. Now, since you are only five eight?
725.14	726.69	A:	[JERRY] Five seven (( )).
725.99	731.41	A:	[LABOV] Five seven. You are even shorter than me, and I'm pretty short. I can predict that you have to fight pretty good to get along.
731.00	731.86	A:	[JERRY] Yeah.
733.16	734.82	A:	[JERRY] Well, I --
733.97	739.22	A:	[LABOV] I just met a man (( )) eighty years old, and ten years ago,
739.22	743.64	A:	[LABOV] he was th- -- still the toughest man ((in his)) town. He was whipping people at the age of seventy.
743.64	745.45	A:	[LABOV] Because he was only -- he was shorter than you.
745.85	747.13	A:	[JERRY] Well, he just knew how.
747.22	748.26	A:	[LABOV] Well, he had to.
748.16	748.92	A:	[JERRY] Right.
748.69	752.98	A:	[LABOV] Had to. So, you've gotten in fights with nobody but guys who were bigger than you.
753.14	758.38	A:	[JERRY] Well, no, I ha- -- got in a fight once down at Uvalde, a drive-in.
758.38	760.21	A:	[JERRY] And it was a little bitty boy eh
760.21	764.42	A:	[JERRY] I would swing at him, and he was gone. I mean, h- -- he fin- --
764.42	768.50	A:	[JERRY] finally got me down. Er -- I tripped or stumbled or something.
768.50	771.02	A:	[JERRY] And when I did, he went to work on me.
771.02	774.33	A:	[JERRY] And he kicked me, ((boy)). Yeah. He did. And he whipped me.
771.14	772.87	A:	[LABOV] He did the job, huh?
774.33	777.82	A:	[JERRY] And that hurt my feelings there, I mean, you know.
777.82	780.85	A:	[JERRY] That hurt me worse than anything.
780.85	782.63	A:	[JERRY] It's my feelings ((hurt)).
781.21	782.65	A:	[LABOV] Well, you ((pro-)) --
782.63	784.21	A:	[JERRY] But I don- --
784.21	785.70	A:	[JERRY] I don't uh --
786.65	789.13	A:	[JERRY] Fighting is something I do very little of.
789.84	791.44	A:	[JERRY] I can, I guess.
791.44	794.69	A:	[JERRY] There's always somebody ((can)) whip somebody ((just)) (( )).
791.65	792.73	A:	[LABOV] Well, ((was there)) --
794.10	796.87	A:	[LABOV] Was there one time, though, you had gotten into was really serious?
797.62	798.89	A:	[JERRY] Well,
800.77	802.39	A:	[JERRY] not real bad.
802.39	803.41	A:	[JERRY] I wouldn't say.
803.70	805.73	A:	[LABOV] There's a man who has --
805.73	811.35	A:	[LABOV] takes i- -- it takes him -- takes him a half hour just to negotiate the little gas ((pump)). (( )).
815.20	816.99	A:	[JERRY] You meet all kind.
818.00	820.30	A:	[JERRY] People are my -- I d- -- I --
820.30	821.64	A:	[JERRY] I don't know, I --
821.64	823.86	A:	[JERRY] just looking at people.
823.86	830.59	A:	[JERRY] ((I mean I'm not just)) -- seeing different kinds of people. It's real interesting to me. You know, you meet e- -- you can meet all kinds.
830.18	835.14	A:	[LABOV] Well, that's why I'm -- that's why I do what I do. Because I- -- I uh -- I travel around ((and I))
835.14	837.03	A:	[LABOV] really get to know people good.
836.23	837.58	A:	[JERRY] Uh-huh.
837.58	840.98	A:	[JERRY] I enjoy it. Just while, you know, watching different kind ((of people)).
843.82	844.99	A:	[LABOV] Now
844.99	846.23	A:	[LABOV] uh
848.20	851.87	A:	[LABOV] I still trying to get the picture of what it's like ((down here)). See, in some places,
851.87	853.60	A:	[LABOV] uh a guy can say I give.
853.60	857.68	A:	[LABOV] When he is d- -- had enough. And you can walk away, and you don't even have to watch your back.
857.87	858.58	A:	[JERRY] Right.
858.50	860.12	A:	[LABOV] He's not going to jump on you.
859.90	860.62	A:	[JERRY] Well,
860.12	861.66	A:	[LABOV] Because he would get killed if he did.
861.78	863.44	A:	[JERRY] I believe it uh
863.44	866.13	A:	[JERRY] in like that t- --
867.54	873.52	A:	[JERRY] If you're fighting somebody, when they give is when you're through giving it to them. I mean -- uh -- really.
873.52	874.27	A:	[JERRY] It's --
875.03	877.01	A:	[JERRY] Unless it's -- you're 
877.01	879.90	A:	[JERRY] fighting for fun or just the sport of it.
879.90	886.69	A:	[JERRY] It would be different. But d- uh -- if I'm going fight about something, it's usually -- it's going be something to fight about. Really.
885.97	890.00	A:	[LABOV] ((Well, that and)) you're different from a lot of guys. They go around from bar to bar on Saturday night,
889.81	890.70	A:	[JERRY] I know.
890.00	892.16	A:	[LABOV] and they just wait for a guy to --
892.95	898.52	A:	[JERRY] I -- I go -- I hit a lot of them bars, and I never have had any trouble. Even though I am nineteen.
898.90	901.49	A:	[FRIEND] There's very few I don't like.
904.31	907.51	A:	[JERRY] I ((think that)) sch- -- I ((think that)) school is only --
907.51	911.41	A:	[JERRY] on that you ((was)) talking about ((your)) school, I think that it's just --
911.41	915.38	A:	[JERRY] all fellow needs to know actually get along in life
915.38	916.69	A:	[JERRY] is -- is --
916.69	918.58	A:	[JERRY] i- uh he needs to know math.
919.09	919.46	A:	[LABOV] Yep.
919.66	920.97	A:	[JERRY] And he -- and
920.97	925.55	A:	[JERRY] needs know reading, wri- -- ((to read and write and spell)).
925.55	929.27	A:	[JERRY] And I think a lot of it is just a junk -- bunch of bunk. It's not --
931.10	932.41	A:	[JERRY] (( )).
933.04	936.61	A:	[LABOV] Uh, yeah, but, figure something like this.
938.30	941.54	A:	[LABOV] You take the -- some war gets started up by
941.54	945.43	A:	[LABOV] (( )) war in Vietnam. Well, you -- you didn't get ship- -- your ass shipped over there?
944.81	945.63	A:	[JERRY] No.
945.43	946.60	A:	[LABOV] But you might have been.
946.78	947.29	A:	[JERRY] Right.
947.17	952.20	A:	[LABOV] You get shot up. Now, I have no idea what it is we ((would)) have to know in order to stop getting 
952.20	953.70	A:	[LABOV] into messes like that.
953.70	955.21	A:	[LABOV] But somebody got to know something.
954.99	955.75	A:	[JERRY] Mhm.
958.97	960.41	A:	[JERRY] There's -- there's uh
961.06	963.87	A:	[JERRY] a lot of things ((is)) I'm sure that it take --
964.59	967.10	A:	[JERRY] ((how can your)) school -- ((like these)) --
968.22	970.66	A:	[JERRY] Guys, we'll take the astronauts.
970.66	973.56	A:	[JERRY] Takes people to put it ((down)). Now, they have to know something.
973.56	975.14	A:	[JERRY] In their own mind.
975.14	977.97	A:	[JERRY] And I -- I mean, they have to know it good.
977.97	978.74	A:	[JERRY] Too.
978.91	980.75	A:	[LABOV] ((So)) how many years of school did you stay in?
980.61	982.85	A:	[JERRY] I just got eight years completed.
982.85	984.19	A:	[JERRY] ((I went)) --
983.08	987.24	A:	[LABOV] But how come -- could y- -- uh drop out to go to work or --
987.20	988.83	A:	[JERRY] Just dropped out.
988.83	990.25	A:	[JERRY] I was good in school.
990.15	990.64	A:	[LABOV] You were?
990.25	992.82	A:	[JERRY] I was straight ~A student when I quit.
992.59	993.44	A:	[LABOV] You're kidding.
993.43	995.72	A:	[JERRY] Just got bored. Walked out.
995.72	996.87	A:	[JERRY] I don- --
996.68	998.14	A:	[LABOV] How about your dad, what did he say?
998.37	1001.59	A:	[JERRY] He -- him -- my mother and dad is divorced for ye- --
1001.59	1003.36	A:	[JERRY] heck, since I was that high.
1003.36	1008.09	A:	[JERRY] My mother and them -- mother got all upset, my stepdad, he didn't care.
1008.09	1009.66	A:	[JERRY] My mother, she just 
1009.66	1013.72	A:	[JERRY] got a little upset, about it for a while. She calmed down.
1013.72	1015.15	A:	[JERRY] I don't know ((why)) --
1015.93	1020.92	A:	[JERRY] ((And then)) I quit, and then I said, well, I'll go back this year. And I went back and about 
1020.92	1023.96	A:	[JERRY] a month is about all before I walked out again.
1024.16	1027.01	A:	[LABOV] Well, see, that's the kind of thing that I get involved in, because
1027.01	1033.25	A:	[LABOV] uh I was bored as hell in school, and now I go around talking to people, finding out just what the hell they want to learn.
1033.25	1035.28	A:	[LABOV] I figure that maybe s- --
1035.28	1036.96	A:	[LABOV] I been uh
1038.02	1045.58	A:	[LABOV] talking to teachers and try and square them away, because it is an awful lot of shit you have take in school, and it is very important (( )).
1045.58	1046.19	A:	[JERRY] Yeah.
1047.45	1051.81	A:	[LABOV] Which one was r- -- rubbed you the wr- -- wh- -- what class rubbed you the wrong way the most?
1051.38	1055.06	A:	[JERRY] Well, I -- I never did see eye to eye with history.
1056.31	1062.77	A:	[JERRY] I mean, it didn't inter- -- I never was interes- -- So if Columbus sailed across the ocean blue or
1062.77	1068.59	A:	[JERRY] some Mexican discovered this, ((old soldiers)) and all them. I -- I -- it just bored me.
1068.59	1072.80	A:	[JERRY] And that and -- now, I enjoyed reading. And I read all time.
1072.75	1073.31	A:	[LABOV] Uh-huh.
1072.80	1074.48	A:	[JERRY] And
1074.48	1078.13	A:	[JERRY] I guess ah mostly westerns and stuff like that, you know.
1078.13	1083.51	A:	[JERRY] But uh constantly every day, I read. I'll read a book usually before I go to sleep.
1083.51	1085.74	A:	[JERRY] Go through a little pocket book, you know.
1085.74	1086.72	A:	[JERRY] And
1088.53	1090.35	A:	[JERRY] I don- -- I like that.
1090.35	1092.65	A:	[JERRY] Let's see, what else was it that I didn't like.
1094.50	1095.82	A:	[LABOV] How about the English class?
1095.69	1100.34	A:	[JERRY] Eng- -- I just hated it. That was it. English and that darn history.
1100.34	1102.93	A:	[JERRY] And geography and all that junk.
1102.93	1104.98	A:	[JERRY] It was just junk to me.
1104.98	1106.24	A:	[JERRY] I couldn't 
1106.24	1107.92	A:	[JERRY] see where it was helping me.
1107.37	1110.64	A:	[LABOV] How the hell could ~As in it though if you hated it that much?
1110.67	1115.07	A:	[JERRY] I don't know. I just sat and listened in class. I could always figure out --
1116.41	1121.15	A:	[JERRY] I just hated it. But yet I would stick. I made a ~B once in uh
1121.15	1122.62	A:	[JERRY] in English.
1123.63	1124.51	A:	[LABOV] ((Well, listen,))
1124.51	1125.61	A:	[LABOV] uh
1126.73	1128.50	A:	[LABOV] down where you grew up,
1130.67	1132.92	A:	[LABOV] you have a lot of uh Mexicans ((living)) there?
1133.01	1134.57	A:	[JERRY] About half the town.
1134.57	1135.79	A:	[LABOV] You learn any Spanish?
1135.98	1136.85	A:	[JERRY] No.
1136.85	1138.80	A:	[JERRY] For some reason I never did.
1138.72	1140.28	A:	[LABOV] You have any Mexican friends.
1140.35	1141.39	A:	[JERRY] Yeah.
1141.39	1144.84	A:	[JERRY] Used t- -- I mean, a- -- there's lot of them and then there's some here too.
1144.84	1147.22	A:	[JERRY] it t- -- ((there uh)) -- I mean, I don't run around with them.
1147.22	1153.25	A:	[JERRY] ((All the time)). Some of them I do. ((I'll)) -- We'll go out some night when I'm off and drink a few beers or something like that.
1154.09	1155.36	A:	[JERRY] But it's not --
1156.91	1159.13	A:	[JERRY] you know, we don't just run around all the time.
1159.13	1161.66	A:	[JERRY] But I (( )) picked up a little bit
1161.66	1163.56	A:	[JERRY] from working ((wet back)).
1176.88	1177.57	A:	[LABOV] Well, what's that?
1180.45	1181.11	A:	[LABOV] My -- 
1181.02	1183.22	A:	[FRIEND] [this is a different speaker than one before] We got ((one like that)) here. (( )) 
1181.66	1182.80	A:	[LABOV] Oh yeah.
1182.80	1184.23	A:	[LABOV] This is my- -- 
1184.23	1186.94	A:	[LABOV] my -- my tool. Without it, I would be dead.
1186.45	1188.92	A:	[FRIEND] That looks like a nice recorder. What kind ((is it))?
1188.39	1191.03	A:	[LABOV] Oh yeah, yeah, it was made in Switzerland.
1195.73	1196.81	A:	[LABOV] Everybody in the boat.
1203.46	1205.92	A:	[JERRY] Outboard or one of them inboard.
1205.89	1210.91	A:	[FRIEND] (( )) I want a boat. I don't want no motor. I have got a motor.
1210.19	1212.49	A:	[JERRY] Oh. Did you ever get your motor?
1214.02	1217.22	A:	[FRIEND] And I've got a flat bottomed boat, but it's not what I want.
1217.07	1218.12	A:	[JERRY] ((Well, do)) you want one of them
1217.96	1221.71	A:	[FRIEND] I tell where this boat just exactly what I want. It's right ((behind there)).
1226.41	1228.62	A:	[LABOV] You ain't got a rig to pull it away.
1228.41	1230.25	A:	[JERRY] You don't know whose it is or anything.
1229.96	1230.96	A:	[FRIEND] Yeah, ((shit)).
1231.20	1232.58	A:	[JERRY] You don't know whose it is?
1232.61	1236.19	A:	[FRIEND] (( )) ((motel up there)). (( )). No.
1234.36	1235.54	A:	[JERRY] ((Could)) you talk to him?
1234.54	1235.56	A:	[LABOV] Oh?
1236.19	1241.34	A:	[FRIEND] Several others talked to them. He won't even talk to them. (( ))
1241.57	1245.22	A:	[FRIEND] ((In the summer it's)) been sitting there two years I know of and (( ))
1243.94	1245.06	A:	[JERRY] I'll go talk to him.
1245.15	1246.11	A:	[LABOV] You don't use it, huh?
1247.05	1251.30	A:	[JERRY] I'll talk to him next time he comes over here and gets gas for (( )) I'll go over and talk to him.
1251.12	1252.80	A:	[FRIEND] Shit him out of that boat.
1252.80	1254.49	A:	[FRIEND] And I'll make it worth your while.
1254.34	1255.92	A:	[JERRY] ((I might can)).
1255.92	1258.26	A:	[JERRY] I might could find you one (( )).
1258.31	1259.81	A:	[LABOV] Tell him it's full of worms.
1259.36	1261.43	A:	[FRIEND] It's a boat just like that one right there.
1260.80	1263.81	A:	[JERRY] Oh. You just talking about that damn gun. I'll tell you ((where to go)).
1263.81	1265.11	A:	[JERRY] Go down there at Leakey.
1265.11	1266.48	A:	[JERRY] What are you going be doing?
1266.48	1268.01	A:	[JERRY] Uh Monday evening?
1268.83	1270.07	A:	[FRIEND] ((Working.))
1269.87	1271.93	A:	[JERRY] Well, I mean, after you get off work?
1273.37	1276.71	A:	[JERRY] We'll run dow- -- make a run down there at Leakey or something.
1276.71	1278.72	A:	[JERRY] I'm off Monday night.
1278.29	1282.95	A:	[FRIEND] Well, uh, I'll have to see what -- let's see, Monday night?
1282.56	1284.93	A:	[JERRY] Yeah. That's ((when I'm going to be off)).
1284.40	1286.32	A:	[FRIEND] What's today, Wednesday?
1286.55	1287.96	A:	[LABOV] Pretty near.
1288.06	1290.12	A:	[FRIEND] Old lady worked last night.
1291.17	1293.20	A:	[FRIEND] Tuesday night she ((work)) (( )).
1293.20	1295.99	A:	[FRIEND] (( )) Monday.
1297.28	1298.85	A:	[FRIEND] I don't really know.
1298.81	1300.88	A:	[JERRY] ((Well if we can we'll)) run down there.
1300.88	1304.32	A:	[JERRY] ((And I know a lot of them old)) gun ((stock)) (( )) ((down in there)).
1303.06	1306.67	A:	[FRIEND] (( )) Sam up here is supposed to have got a two eighteen.
1307.36	1309.59	A:	[JERRY] ((Naw,)) he was supposed to got that from 
1309.59	1311.16	A:	[JERRY] ((from)) my cousin.
1311.55	1314.36	A:	[FRIEND] But anyways he ain't -- far as I know, he ((ain't got it)).
1314.35	1320.57	A:	[JERRY] I'm pretty sure (( )) ((Walsh drives a uniformed truck)). (( )) You know him?
1320.57	1323.32	A:	[JERRY] Uh, he supposed to got it from him.
1323.32	1326.35	A:	[JERRY] How you met him up there with (( )).
1324.72	1328.28	A:	[FRIEND] But tell me this. What is a gun like that worth?
1328.35	1329.28	A:	[JERRY] I don't know.
1330.83	1333.44	A:	[JERRY] ((I ain't -- what we can)) do, we can go check.
1331.91	1334.95	A:	[FRIEND] Give me some figuring, to goddamn to go on.
1336.53	1338.47	A:	[JERRY] ((Don't know)). Let me think.
1339.81	1342.58	A:	[FRIEND] Well, now, here's what I'm going ((by)).
1342.58	1345.99	A:	[FRIEND] And I'm not even figuring on the two eighteen or two nineteen.
1347.15	1351.71	A:	[FRIEND] Well, ((Bob)) (( )). You know. ((He used)) to be a stake sitter.
1352.76	1357.05	A:	[FRIEND] He bought a two twenty-two the other day, ((used)), ((from Bo Paxson)).
1357.05	1359.96	A:	[FRIEND] With a full power Weaver scope on it.
1359.96	1362.47	A:	[FRIEND] He get seventy dollars for it.
1366.08	1370.97	A:	[FRIEND] And full power Weaver scope comes to thirty dollars ((any fucking time)).
1370.97	1375.71	A:	[FRIEND] So he give thirty-five to forty dollars for the -- toward the gun.
1375.71	1378.81	A:	[FRIEND] That was a two twenty-two.
1378.81	1383.03	A:	[FRIEND] And a two eighteen is a smaller bore, so it should be,
1383.03	1384.56	A:	[FRIEND] a used gun,
1385.66	1390.15	A:	[FRIEND] and this gun he bought is a fine looking gun, (( )).
1389.99	1394.85	A:	[JERRY] (( )) friend out there at Langtry (( )) east (( )) here.
1394.85	1400.40	A:	[JERRY] Got r- -- (( )) ranch, ((well he's)) got one down there at Rocksprings, he's got that one out there.
1400.40	1402.27	A:	[JERRY] I could call him.
1403.25	1404.97	A:	[JERRY] He'll know real quick.
1404.97	1407.72	A:	[JERRY] If he hadn't got one he'll know where --
1408.88	1410.19	A:	[FRIEND] But I wouldn't want to
1410.19	1414.77	A:	[FRIEND] try to get to anybody on one, because ((I would want one)) at a halfway decent price. 
1414.08	1414.67	A:	[JERRY] Right.
1414.77	1417.44	A:	[FRIEND] You know, go and buy a two twenty-two.
1418.47	1421.76	A:	[FRIEND] And that's what I would rate one at, is about a two twenty-two. 
1420.98	1421.94	A:	[JERRY] Pretty close.
1423.26	1425.26	A:	[FRIEND] ((ss-- Let me think.))
1431.62	1435.03	A:	[JERRY] I still think one of them Hornets would be just about right for him.
1435.26	1438.29	A:	[FRIEND] ((Now if it's center fired, it should be all right)).
1436.91	1438.38	A:	[JERRY] It's center fire.
1438.38	1441.57	A:	[JERRY] You ((know what I'm talking about. Hornet? Twenty-two?))
1442.72	1445.35	A:	[JERRY] Now, the reason that I was
1445.35	1447.90	A:	[JERRY] saying the Hornet is because
1447.90	1449.53	A:	[JERRY] I shot 
1449.53	1451.15	A:	[JERRY] three or four deers ((with one)).
1451.15	1455.95	A:	[JERRY] We had this place down here at Leakey, there ((drop off)) (( )).
1455.95	1460.20	A:	[JERRY] Had that place down there. ((Had this field. And it was about))
1460.20	1461.18	A:	[JERRY] oh
1461.18	1463.25	A:	[JERRY] ((pretty close to))
1463.25	1466.48	A:	[JERRY] two hundred yards across that field.
1466.48	1472.63	A:	[JERRY] And there was an old yearling standing over there. Oh (( )). Yearling standing over there.
1472.63	1479.06	A:	[JERRY] And uh I was watching him setting there out in the front yard drinking a beer, ((in my easy chair)) (( )).
1479.06	1482.23	A:	[JERRY] I just went and got it. (( )) ((side)).
1482.23	1486.48	A:	[JERRY] And I shot -- I -- I ain't -- I just, you know, pull a little bit over 
1486.48	1490.41	A:	[JERRY] and I got him right down here. I just hit him right in the neck, ((boy)).
1490.41	1492.78	A:	[JERRY] Uh --
1492.78	1494.38	A:	[JERRY] It carries ((and all)).
1494.38	1499.00	A:	[JERRY] And he didn't -- he didn't run a bit. He just ((hit the ground. Because)) it broke his neck.
1494.62	1495.19	A:	[FRIEND] Yeah.
1499.72	1502.35	A:	[JERRY] And that's a pretty good distance for a small gun.
1501.01	1505.83	A:	[FRIEND] Well I -- I would go for a gun like that or a two eighteen or two nineteen.
1505.83	1510.47	A:	[FRIEND] But now I don't want a two twenty-two or a two forty-three or a thirty thirty. 
1510.47	1512.25	A:	[FRIEND] Because I blow up the thirty thirty
1510.89	1511.81	A:	[LABOV] Mos- --
1512.25	1515.04	A:	[FRIEND] I really thought ((that)) boy could handle a thirty thirty, ((but)) 
1514.26	1516.97	A:	[LABOV] Most kids start with a thirty thirty, ((that I'm told)).
1516.13	1518.84	A:	[JERRY] And them short thirties. Is that what it was? ((A short one))?
1518.84	1520.48	A:	[JERRY] They'll kick like the dickens.
1520.35	1521.48	A:	[FRIEND] You're goddamn right.
1521.12	1522.87	A:	[LABOV] They don't carry that far.
1523.24	1530.07	A:	[FRIEND] (( )) 
1523.56	1524.48	A:	[JERRY] ((That's my gun.))
1530.66	1532.03	A:	[JERRY] ((In fact that's what I)) (( )).
1531.10	1535.15	A:	[LABOV] Most people I know, they ((live very)) -- they get off a thirty thirty just because it doesn't --
1535.88	1537.01	A:	[LABOV] doesn't carry that --
1536.89	1539.83	A:	[FRIEND] (( )) 
1537.11	1540.74	A:	[JERRY] Well, in this country, you don't have to have a gun and carry it.
1540.13	1547.49	A:	[FRIEND] And you latch him up to that thirty thirty and if it don't turn him ((half)) around, I'll kiss your ass. I don't care ((who the)) kid it is. 
1549.47	1551.79	A:	[JERRY] They got to get used to it.
1551.79	1553.23	A:	[JERRY] (( )).
1552.36	1554.82	A:	[FRIEND] Maybe at that age you don't get used to them. 
1554.60	1556.22	A:	[JERRY] Oh -- how old is your boy?
1556.09	1556.87	A:	[FRIEND] Six.
1556.79	1559.67	A:	[JERRY] Oh, hell, six, seven years old, around in there,
1559.49	1562.94	A:	[LABOV] You gon- -- yo- -- you want to go- -- you going to be with him when he ((uses it)).
1559.67	1560.69	A:	[JERRY] that's too damn small.
1562.94	1563.56	A:	[LABOV] You going to --
1563.47	1565.67	A:	[FRIEND] Yeah, I'll be with him when he uses it
1565.67	1570.81	A:	[FRIEND] but that thirty thirty that ((Bob)) traded for and ended up with is too much gun for him. 
1570.80	1572.18	A:	[LABOV] Yeah, six is --
1572.18	1573.91	A:	[LABOV] How what does he weigh?
1572.19	1574.04	A:	[FRIEND] I traded that (( ))
1574.04	1575.78	A:	[FRIEND] About fifty pound
1575.91	1579.59	A:	[LABOV] ((Well, not)) too much. ((A little bit light)).
1579.21	1582.63	A:	[FRIEND] I've traded a damn brand new thirty ought-six
1584.10	1587.57	A:	[FRIEND] (( )) what is, seven forty-five Sportsmaster?
1588.14	1590.90	A:	[FRIEND] Automatic, four port
1590.90	1593.47	A:	[FRIEND] four peer- -- four power Weaver scope on it.
1593.47	1598.49	A:	[FRIEND] I traded it for that thirty thirty because I thought that thirty thirty would take care of ((this boy)).
1597.68	1600.23	A:	[JERRY] Well, I need to find me a pistol.
1600.23	1602.09	A:	[JERRY] And I can't find what I want.
1603.99	1604.88	A:	[FRIEND] What do you want?
1604.85	1608.53	A:	[JERRY] I wan- -- I want this uh six-shooter, magnum.
1608.53	1610.10	A:	[JERRY] Twenty-two magnum.
1609.93	1611.40	A:	[FRIEND] ((Just forget it.))
1612.82	1618.03	A:	[JERRY] I found one uh that I wanted ((that's)) pretty good one. ((Same as the last one.))
1618.03	1621.06	A:	[JERRY] (( )) ((Colt)).
1622.09	1624.22	A:	[JERRY] ((But I'm)) too damn ((rich)).
1626.32	1627.78	A:	[FRIEND] (( )) ((cold))?
1627.49	1628.91	A:	[JERRY] Colt.
1628.84	1629.45	A:	[FRIEND] Oh.
1631.76	1634.19	A:	[FRIEND] You don't want a single action, do you?
1634.53	1635.39	A:	[JERRY] Yep.
1635.39	1637.15	A:	[JERRY] I don't like the double action.
1637.70	1640.26	A:	[FRIEND] ((Double action you've got the advantage.))
1640.26	1642.74	A:	[FRIEND] You can either pull the trigger or cock it.
1642.94	1643.73	A:	[JERRY] Yeah, but -- 
1643.65	1646.53	A:	[FRIEND] Single action action you ain't got ((but)) one choice, cock it.
1646.53	1647.72	A:	[FRIEND] ((Pull the trigger.))
1650.47	1656.91	A:	[JERRY] Well, I know a guy, a sheriff I would like to talk to now, he -- (( )) hunting and guns and getting shot.
1653.90	1654.55	A:	[LABOV] Yeah.
1656.91	1659.94	A:	[JERRY] Stuff. That old boy ((can set you)) straight.
1659.94	1663.37	A:	[LABOV] I notice all these sheriffs uh -- and uh
1663.37	1665.29	A:	[LABOV] they all know each other and uh
1665.29	1670.43	A:	[LABOV] I'm sure I get two hundred miles down here, and I'll mention some sheriff and they (( )).
1670.43	1674.02	A:	[LABOV] And they -- they always look skeptical, one sheriff talking about another.
1674.87	1676.28	A:	[LABOV] Uh, he knows something.
1676.28	1677.73	A:	[LABOV] ((This kind of shit.))
1679.03	1680.32	A:	[LABOV] How do the uh --
1680.32	1685.75	A:	[LABOV] the cops uh uh go around. This -- this fellow that -- this friend of yours coming around here. He all right?
1684.34	1685.30	A:	[JERRY] ((You mean old Ray.))
1685.75	1690.27	A:	[LABOV] Uh, generally speaking, eh, I think as you get older uh, ((and get cocky)) you get
1690.27	1691.74	A:	[LABOV] tend to get a little bit mean.
1691.74	1694.58	A:	[LABOV] Pushing people around too much. But maybe that's not so around here.
1694.37	1699.25	A:	[JERRY] Well, I think uh eh according uh -- you know, I have seen some pretty good guys.
1700.15	1703.69	A:	[LABOV] If they don't grow a belly. You know, the ones that grow these big beer bellies.
1702.83	1703.71	A:	[JERRY] ((I meet s-))
1703.71	1705.10	A:	[JERRY] Yo- -- you have got --
1706.21	1710.34	A:	[JERRY] I imagine it's hell. I -- I'm looking from my v- viewpoint, and I don't know 
1710.34	1713.01	A:	[JERRY] but I imagine it's hell to be a cop because --
1713.01	1717.27	A:	[JERRY] like old Ray. Here he is, he is kin to hell of a bunch of people around here.
1717.27	1725.46	A:	[JERRY] And everything. And he stops one of them, they do something wrong, it's going make them mad as hell, and if he don't, everybody else going be mad at him.
1725.46	1728.38	A:	[JERRY] And -- ((there's just)) all kind -- always something.
1728.38	1732.33	A:	[JERRY] And they'll -- they'll stop somebody, and they'll get madder than hell, but
1732.33	1736.19	A:	[JERRY] if we didn't have them, we would be in (( )).
1734.14	1736.56	A:	[FRIEND] ((I tell you what)) (( )) ((old Ray))
1737.67	1738.73	A:	[FRIEND] is ignorant.
1738.77	1739.71	A:	[JERRY] Mhm.
1740.21	1741.93	A:	[FRIEND] He is stupid son of a bitch.
1743.58	1745.72	A:	[FRIEND] And everybody in town
1745.72	1747.27	A:	[FRIEND] ((or most of them))
1747.27	1750.87	A:	[FRIEND] (( )) ((we have one in the daytime named Derwood.))
1750.87	1753.86	A:	[FRIEND] ((Most of them hate that son of a bitch.))
1753.61	1754.87	A:	[JERRY] I like ((Derwood)).
1754.74	1756.92	A:	[FRIEND] But if you sit down and talk to that old boy,
1757.67	1762.65	A:	[FRIEND] he has got a lot more sense, and knows a lot more what is going on than old Ray. 
1762.28	1762.83	A:	[JERRY] Yeah.
1762.65	1765.98	A:	[FRIEND] Ray, he's fucked up. He don't know what is going on. 
1766.99	1770.04	A:	[LABOV] Well, see, one thing bad about being a cop is that suppose you're pissed off.
1770.04	1771.70	A:	[LABOV] At your son or something like that.
1771.70	1773.91	A:	[LABOV] You can go out and take it out on anybody.
1773.91	1776.17	A:	[LABOV] And after a while, you get in the habit of taking it out on people.
1776.74	1778.11	A:	[FRIEND] Well, 
1778.11	1780.06	A:	[FRIEND] no,
1781.75	1782.67	A:	[FRIEND] no, 
1783.84	1785.44	A:	[FRIEND] I don't -- I don't agree with that.
1786.18	1787.89	A:	[FRIEND] Because it's just like old Ray.
1787.89	1792.94	A:	[FRIEND] If he is pissed off his old lady or something, I wouldn't invite him to come fucking around and taking it out on me.
1793.09	1796.27	A:	[LABOV] No, but he'll pick up some tourist going by,
1796.27	1797.62	A:	[LABOV] rake his ass out.
1797.18	1799.95	A:	[JERRY] Well, he's -- they're definitely bad on our damn tourists.
1799.95	1801.22	A:	[JERRY] They are.
1801.08	1801.95	A:	[FRIEND] No.
1802.88	1808.37	A:	[JERRY] They're coming through here -- shit, man, they stop everybody from out of town they can. They'll see a taillight out or something.
1808.12	1809.46	A:	[FRIEND] They don't stop me. 
1809.84	1811.01	A:	[JERRY] Yeah, but you're not a tourist.
1810.45	1812.64	A:	[LABOV] Naw -- see, a local cop -- naw.
1811.06	1813.21	A:	[FRIEND] (( )) fucking license tags. 
1813.20	1814.54	A:	[JERRY] Yeah, but they know you car.
1814.46	1815.46	A:	[FRIEND] No, they don't.
1815.21	1819.73	A:	[LABOV] (( )) Well, a local cop knows who is local and they won't give anybody ticket from town,
1819.73	1821.78	A:	[LABOV] or even mess with them. That's the same in our town.
1821.78	1823.09	A:	[LABOV] You can get away with shit.
1823.09	1827.54	A:	[LABOV] But uh they -- they just watch out for guys coming out of t- -- Because they -- just for what you say, they --
1827.54	1829.90	A:	[LABOV] they -- they can't afford to mess around with uh
1829.90	1831.66	A:	[LABOV] local people. It adds up.
1833.55	1834.78	A:	[LABOV] After -- can you imagine --
1834.10	1834.76	A:	[FRIEND] (( )) 
1834.76	1838.91	A:	[FRIEND] Old Ray's old lady was working down here at ((~O ~K)) one time
1839.97	1841.79	A:	[FRIEND] (( )) 
1844.14	1848.36	A:	[FRIEND] And I had been drinking a little heavy that night. (( )) drinking whiskey.
1848.36	1850.80	A:	[FRIEND] She come out there and wait on us,
1850.80	1852.05	A:	[FRIEND] ((ask what wanted))
1852.47	1853.15	A:	[FRIEND] ((nothing)).
1854.22	1857.18	A:	[FRIEND] The old man, he ordered a cup of coffee and I said, say uh,
1859.05	1861.31	A:	[FRIEND] not being nosy or shitty anything,
1861.31	1863.96	A:	[FRIEND] and I said, would you care for a drink?
1867.08	1870.20	A:	[FRIEND] And she said, no,
1870.20	1874.00	A:	[FRIEND] I wouldn't care for a drink. Says, I don't drink unless I'm at home. 
1874.00	1875.92	A:	[FRIEND] I said, all right.
1875.92	1879.44	A:	[FRIEND] I'll give you a drink to take home, if you want ((it)).
1879.44	1882.01	A:	[FRIEND] She said, no, (( ))
1882.01	1884.51	A:	[FRIEND] I wouldn't care for ((one)), I said, okay. 
1884.51	1889.96	A:	[FRIEND] And she told her old man, and old Ray told it around town that he was after my ass, ((see)). 
1891.19	1892.28	A:	[LABOV] (( ))
1891.34	1898.10	A:	[FRIEND] ((Well, this is hell, but one time old Derwood was after my ass. If you'll remember whenever we was trading up there at the station.))
1898.60	1901.38	A:	[JERRY] Well, (( )) ((tell you about)) Derwood.
1899.40	1901.22	A:	[LABOV] I'll tell wh- -- y- --
1901.38	1912.36	A:	[JERRY] When me and my old lady ((was here)) before I -- before we left, ((before I went north)). We was living here and she would be raising hell, something (( )) ((so I would get in my old)) car and get drunker than shit.
1912.36	1917.54	A:	[JERRY] I come through this son of a bitch sliding sideways ((going about eighty)) and knocked that little fence out right there.
1917.54	1921.80	A:	[JERRY] ((Going straight.)) Old Leonard was night cop then, (( )).
1921.80	1925.87	A:	[JERRY] He pulled me over, stopped me. I'm taking you to jail and all this shit. I didn't say ((anything)).
1925.87	1928.24	A:	[JERRY] I said let's go talk to Derwood.
1929.39	1938.27	A:	[JERRY] ((Oh, we went up there and woke the Derwood up)), he walked out there and he -- I had a (( )) case of beer left in my car. I ((had already)) drank about a case. Boy, I really putting it down.
1938.27	1939.88	A:	[JERRY] I just pissed off and
1939.88	1941.02	A:	[JERRY] ((I)) ha- --
1941.02	1945.17	A:	[JERRY] He said just give him his beer back and everything, ((and then go home)).
1945.17	1947.38	A:	[JERRY] And old Derwood, he said, I could put you in jail
1947.38	1952.24	A:	[JERRY] but he said your wife is pregnant, and you're going need all the money you can get. He said just
1952.24	1953.11	A:	[JERRY] you know.
1953.11	1954.59	A:	[JERRY] Just cool it.
1954.59	1957.32	A:	[JERRY] Little bit. And i- -- that's all. An- --
1957.32	1958.85	A:	[JERRY] That was the time
1958.85	1966.04	A:	[JERRY] and when I g- -- just got out of the Army, and I come in and she ((filed for divorce)), so I left. So I come back in about three weeks, see my baby.
1966.04	1967.54	A:	[JERRY] And 
1967.54	1969.26	A:	[JERRY] I said, well, hell, ((I'm going))
1969.26	1975.71	A:	[JERRY] m- -- I'll just go and work down here and where I can be where I can see Wayne ((when I want to, you know)). So.
1977.24	1979.92	A:	[JERRY] I was going go to work. I told her. She went and 
1979.92	1982.74	A:	[JERRY] put me under five hundred dollar peace bond.
1982.74	1989.26	A:	[JERRY] (( )) got him pick me up. Sat and went told him, said I was -- said I was going kill her and bunch of crap like that.
1989.26	1991.93	A:	[JERRY] And old what's his name?
1991.93	1996.27	A:	[JERRY] Judge (( )). The whole goddamn works down here.
1997.41	2000.22	A:	[JERRY] Hendrix? Hendrix? Is that it?
2000.22	2001.59	A:	[JERRY] Old bastard.
2001.59	2007.27	A:	[JERRY] And he was -- she was telling him all how I was going kill her and threaten her and all this shit.
2007.27	2015.30	A:	[JERRY] Old Derwood, he come pick me up. He said, goddammit, I got a warrant for your arrest. He said, I hate pick you up. Get in. And we'll go down there and get something ((done)).
2015.30	2016.63	A:	[JERRY] Walked in there,
2016.63	2021.66	A:	[JERRY] old judge just chewing me out. He said, well, have you got five hundred dollars put up,
2021.66	2024.93	A:	[JERRY] for this peace bond. I said, nope. He said, well,
2024.93	2029.78	A:	[JERRY] it looks like you're going have to go to jail. You can see a lawyer and get somebody to put up the bond.
2029.78	2032.44	A:	[JERRY] I said, well,
2033.51	2036.19	A:	[JERRY] stuck out my arm. I said, put them on me.
2036.19	2039.93	A:	[JERRY] ((I'm ready.)) Old Derwood, he spoke up and he said, hey,
2039.93	2047.66	A:	[JERRY] ((He said, if this)) little son of a bitch was going kill anybody, (( )) tell him. He said, I ((guess as much)) (( )). He stuck up for me.
2047.66	2050.83	A:	[JERRY] And that -- now that made me feel real good, you know.
2050.83	2052.70	A:	[JERRY] And he got me out of that. Old Derwood did.
2052.70	2054.19	A:	[JERRY] He helped me ((again)).
2054.19	2058.05	A:	[JERRY] And why he did it, I don't know. I never have done him a favor.
2059.93	2063.03	A:	[JERRY] And that was re- -- I mean, I appreciate it.
2063.03	2066.50	A:	[JERRY] Because here I was fixing go to the jug for nothing.
2068.29	2074.18	A:	[JERRY] Like, ((I went and told her)) I going kill her, like I was just fixing to murder her. (( )) just because she was divorcing me. Shit.
2074.95	2076.64	A:	[JERRY] That's a bunch of bunk.
2080.92	2083.62	A:	[JERRY] I did hit her once, the other day. ((I knocked)) -- 
2083.62	2086.62	A:	[JERRY] just knocked the shit out of her.
2086.62	2087.81	A:	[JERRY] And I shouldn't.
2087.81	2091.90	A:	[JERRY] But I couldn't control my temper no longer. I never hit her while we was married.
2091.90	2094.16	A:	[JERRY] That's first time.
2093.49	2094.50	A:	[FRIEND] Fucked up.
2094.38	2095.46	A:	[LABOV] Just the other day.
2095.93	2100.52	A:	[FRIEND] Whenever he got (( )) ((he knocked the shit out of her)). 
2100.52	2102.36	A:	[FRIEND] I ((got to go)) (( )).
2100.61	2102.47	A:	[JERRY] (( ))
2107.37	2108.51	A:	[LABOV] Nice talking to you.
2117.46	2119.98	A:	[JERRY] ((He'll go past Leakey.))
2131.52	2135.23	A:	[LABOV] Guess n- -- I don't know why -- I often -- I tell my wife uh
2135.23	2139.37	A:	[LABOV] that (( )) be good for her me hit her once and a while, but she says no, she is against that.
2139.37	2140.81	A:	[LABOV] So what ((am I going to do)).
2140.81	2142.65	A:	[LABOV] Uh, actually, she is --
2145.63	2147.20	A:	[LABOV] she is pissed o- --
2147.20	2149.10	A:	[LABOV] I just want um
2149.10	2151.61	A:	[LABOV] ((tell)) you couple other things with you. And then uh
2151.61	2152.74	A:	[LABOV] ((take off. I got to))
2152.74	2154.09	A:	[LABOV] take off early in the morning.
2156.36	2157.35	A:	[LABOV] There you go.
2157.35	2158.41	A:	[LABOV] Uh.
2160.01	2164.35	A:	[LABOV] I think you're -- you're -- you're a guy like most of us. You've got some common sense, and you ((pull a lot of))
2164.35	2166.17	A:	[LABOV] cra- uh -- you do a lot of crazy things too.
2166.24	2167.19	A:	[JERRY] ((I do)).
2168.05	2171.50	A:	[JERRY] ((I mean I --)) I just enjoy myself. I feel like really,
2171.50	2172.57	A:	[JERRY] you know.
2172.57	2179.30	A:	[JERRY] Is a lot of people come up to me and they say, well, you're retarded or something. Act like that. Well, you know, I say --
2179.30	2180.71	A:	[JERRY] I just --
2180.71	2182.43	A:	[JERRY] I enjoy myself.
2182.43	2183.27	A:	[JERRY] You know.
2183.79	2185.70	A:	[LABOV] ((I wish I knew)) how to do it.
2183.97	2184.76	A:	[JERRY] I don't fi- --
2185.62	2187.47	A:	[JERRY] Don't feel like a fellow 
2187.47	2191.45	A:	[JERRY] uh person is going to live too long. You just well enjoy it while he can.
2192.96	2193.86	A:	[JERRY] Or something.
2193.22	2197.64	A:	[LABOV] Yeah, well, the main thing is, look, you got to figure this, you're going to be seventy some day. You want to look back
2197.64	2199.76	A:	[LABOV] and be sure you didn't waste the time.
2199.61	2200.34	A:	[JERRY] Right.
2202.28	2204.43	A:	[JERRY] I don't try to. ((Boy,)) I really
2205.67	2209.12	A:	[JERRY] live it up. It's like these kids come up here and that little old gal --
2209.12	2211.45	A:	[JERRY] I mean they're really kids to me.
2210.16	2211.57	A:	[LABOV] ((Those girls too young for you)) (( )).
2211.45	2211.98	A:	[JERRY] Huh?
2212.04	2213.77	A:	[LABOV] Those gir- -- those girls too young for you.
2213.53	2217.37	A:	[JERRY] I know it. But I was ju- -- I just -- I just uh
2214.47	2215.31	A:	[LABOV] Those (( )) --
2217.37	2220.89	A:	[JERRY] messing around with them like that, just having a good time.
2219.02	2222.64	A:	[LABOV] Yeah, I know, I -- I -- ((I screw around)) with those girls, you know, th- -- uh
2222.64	2224.69	A:	[LABOV] th- -- now of course, I'm a lot older than you. I'm what,
2224.69	2226.82	A:	[LABOV] almost twenty years older?
2226.82	2228.78	A:	[LABOV] Ah, used to be time I look at --
2228.28	2230.28	A:	[JERRY] They're just little kids to me (( )).
2230.16	2232.78	A:	[LABOV] ((Yeah, I have)) -- I see girls, ((you know)), twenty-two, twenty-three now,
2233.48	2235.00	A:	[LABOV] already too young ((for me)).
2234.84	2235.46	A:	[JERRY] Yep.
2237.17	2238.76	A:	[LABOV] Not that uh --
2238.76	2240.47	A:	[LABOV] well, listen, um.
2241.09	2243.38	A:	[LABOV] What the shit were we talking about (( )).
2243.38	2244.49	A:	[LABOV] Um.
2245.05	2247.98	A:	[JERRY] I forgot what we was talking when you first
2247.47	2248.40	A:	[LABOV] Yeah.
2247.98	2249.47	A:	[JERRY] ((when he come out)).
2248.40	2249.83	A:	[LABOV] Well, uh,
2249.83	2251.86	A:	[LABOV] we were uh
2251.86	2257.51	A:	[LABOV] we -- we -- we covered t- -- fight little bit and hunting and fishing, and uh
2257.65	2258.95	A:	[JERRY] ((Then it was)) school.
2258.51	2261.17	A:	[LABOV] (( )). Oh, the school shit, yeah.
2261.17	2262.70	A:	[LABOV] And um.
2262.70	2265.44	A:	[LABOV] Oh, I want to ask you about -- talk about Mexicans down there,
2265.44	2267.17	A:	[LABOV] any colored down there, your way?
2267.02	2267.79	A:	[JERRY] Any- -- 
2267.73	2268.48	A:	[LABOV] Negro?
2268.43	2269.16	A:	[JERRY] No.
2269.16	2271.74	A:	[JERRY] No. ((Just)) Mexican.
2269.17	2269.77	A:	[LABOV] No.
2269.77	2270.75	A:	[LABOV] Just Mexican and --
2272.31	2274.61	A:	[LABOV] Now, did you ever go Mexican girls?
2274.92	2275.94	A:	[JERRY] I never did.
2276.15	2276.90	A:	[LABOV] Why not?
2278.23	2279.53	A:	[JERRY] Well,
2279.53	2283.43	A:	[JERRY] su- -- I don't know really -- I just never did know any very well.
2284.88	2289.32	A:	[JERRY] Now, if it was a girl, I thought a lot of her, she ((is)) a Mexican, I would go with her. I guess.
2289.34	2290.99	A:	[LABOV] Would you marry a Mexican girl?
2290.99	2292.95	A:	[JERRY] If I loved her, I guess I would.
2292.95	2294.55	A:	[JERRY] I mean, I don't really know.
2296.40	2300.60	A:	[LABOV] Well, you take this question. You know, love is a funny thing. You -- you say that you love the g- --
2300.60	2308.48	A:	[LABOV] your wife when you sixteen. Now, when you hang around with the guys, and you talk about how you make out with this girl, well, you screwed that girl, love doesn't enter into it.
2308.48	2311.77	A:	[LABOV] And yet, when you're with her,
2311.77	2315.46	A:	[LABOV] uh it's another matter, and you sometimes wonder which is the real --
2315.46	2317.30	A:	[LABOV] real thing.
2315.59	2317.41	A:	[JERRY] Yeah. I -- uh.
2317.41	2318.53	A:	[JERRY] In a way.
2319.42	2320.72	A:	[JERRY] Now sometimes
2322.56	2329.00	A:	[JERRY] ((See)) when I go out with a girl, I won't really -- if I cut it, I won't tell anybody really. I'm not that way.
2329.00	2332.45	A:	[JERRY] Ah, of course I know -- I'm kind of funny. I don't --
2332.45	2337.05	A:	[JERRY] lot of these old gals run around, screw around all time. I don't much like to go out with them.
2336.82	2339.61	A:	[LABOV] How old were you the first time you laid a girl?
2339.92	2340.72	A:	[JERRY] Hm.
2343.39	2344.66	A:	[JERRY] Let me think.
2346.24	2348.80	A:	[JERRY] Think back. Pretty damn young.
2349.36	2351.80	A:	[JERRY] Ten or eleven. Sometime ((around in there)).
2350.85	2351.80	A:	[LABOV] Yeah.
2351.80	2352.82	A:	[JERRY] That's pretty young.
2352.43	2353.86	A:	[LABOV] Was she your own age or older g-?
2353.77	2355.13	A:	[JERRY] She was about my age.
2355.02	2356.44	A:	[LABOV] How did you know what to do?
2356.79	2358.43	A:	[JERRY] I don't know. I just knew.
2358.43	2362.64	A:	[JERRY] Huh ((it's that instinct comes in)).
2362.64	2365.92	A:	[JERRY] I knew ((there was a hole)), you know.
2365.77	2367.48	A:	[LABOV] Did you ever screw a virgin?
2368.38	2369.04	A:	[JERRY] Yeah.
2369.89	2370.74	A:	[JERRY] I did.
2370.62	2372.36	A:	[LABOV] You have any trouble breaking ((the)) hymen?
2372.47	2373.18	A:	[JERRY] Nope.
2374.88	2376.75	A:	[LABOV] You know, some places --
2376.75	2379.72	A:	[LABOV] I know pe- -- th- -- that it's automatic, that they use their fingers
2379.72	2383.31	A:	[LABOV] to a break a hymen first, before they screw the girl. Just, you know, that's they way they do -- whereas
2383.31	2386.93	A:	[LABOV] where I grew up, you understood that you only did that case, you know, ((it was)) real tough --
2386.66	2387.37	A:	[JERRY] Right.
2387.98	2390.00	A:	[JERRY] Well, I -- no, I never did.
2390.00	2391.17	A:	[JERRY] It's uh
2393.34	2397.40	A:	[JERRY] I thought I was going have to. But I didn't, you know, something like that, ((that)) --
2397.32	2399.44	A:	[LABOV] Well, do you ever worry about hurting a girl?
2397.40	2398.18	A:	[JERRY] (( )) --
2399.59	2403.16	A:	[JERRY] Yeah, I do. I don't wan- -- I mean, that's something I think
2403.16	2405.73	A:	[JERRY] uh my idea on sex, I think that
2405.73	2407.79	A:	[JERRY] an- -- tha- -- that the woman
2407.79	2410.24	A:	[JERRY] hav- -- if I -- if I have --
2410.24	2411.32	A:	[JERRY] uh
2411.32	2417.14	A:	[JERRY] ((when)) I screw a woman, I want her to get enjoyment out of it, just as much or more than I do, see.
2417.14	2420.31	A:	[JERRY] Uh er I don- -- I don't get any enjoyment if they don't.
2420.31	2421.27	A:	[JERRY] You see what ((I mean)). 
2420.87	2422.32	A:	[LABOV] Well, some girls just lie there.
2422.33	2422.93	A:	[JERRY] Mm?
2422.71	2426.34	A:	[LABOV] Some girls just lie there, you know. They're train- -- they -- they grow up that way and
2424.83	2425.53	A:	[JERRY] Right.
2426.34	2427.74	A:	[LABOV] they're afraid to show anything.
2427.82	2428.82	A:	[JERRY] That's right.
2428.82	2432.64	A:	[JERRY] And that's where I try to teach them, if they do that. I mean, you know.
2432.64	2433.54	A:	[JERRY] It's --
2434.38	2437.13	A:	[JERRY] For my age, I -- I've done a lot more than
2437.13	2440.71	A:	[JERRY] most boys my age. I've done a lot of running around now.
2440.71	2442.09	A:	[JERRY] S- -- I don't know why.
2442.09	2445.03	A:	[JERRY] I come up from broken home. Hell, I w- --
2445.03	2448.73	A:	[JERRY] hitchhiked all over the damn United States, just about.
2448.73	2450.63	A:	[JERRY] I just been -- I just
2450.63	2453.20	A:	[JERRY] seen lot, I guess. I don't know what it is.
2454.02	2456.99	A:	[JERRY] Maybe I really haven't seen anything at all.
2459.45	2463.14	A:	[LABOV] Well, I know guys who have uh seen very little.
2463.92	2465.37	A:	[LABOV] And uh
2465.37	2470.59	A:	[LABOV] Other people. But if you travel around, uh, hitchhiking ((in particular)), you get to know a lot about cops, I'll tell you.
2470.83	2471.66	A:	[JERRY] Mhm.
2471.45	2474.14	A:	[LABOV] Eh, I don't care how nice this Derwood fellow is to you.
2474.14	2476.30	A:	[LABOV] You just be a fellow hitchhiking through here.
2476.51	2478.55	A:	[JERRY] You find out how nice you're going to be.
2479.17	2481.26	A:	[LABOV] Especially don't have any money on you.
2481.27	2481.94	A:	[JERRY] Right.
2484.34	2488.62	A:	[JERRY] I don't know, it's getting to be on the uh -- there's a lot
2489.39	2492.23	A:	[JERRY] times these darn policemen can really
2494.05	2495.49	A:	[JERRY] (( )) I don't know, I --
2495.49	2497.94	A:	[JERRY] case while I was down in Houston.
2497.94	2501.69	A:	[JERRY] They got me for drunk in public one night. ((Which)) I ((had)) drank one beer.
2501.69	2504.88	A:	[JERRY] Got off work, drink a beer and got a six pack and had it in --
2504.88	2507.99	A:	[JERRY] I have never go- -- one time, for minor in possession.
2508.66	2515.23	A:	[JERRY] And here I was, had all my ~I ~Ds and everything, just nineteen, but they -- they just mi- -- drunk in public, is what they got me for.
2515.23	2517.84	A:	[JERRY] Somebody put the bug on me down there.
2517.84	2522.43	A:	[JERRY] And they stopped me, and they said, you're drunk, you're going to jail. That's first thing that policeman said.
2523.15	2524.24	A:	[JERRY] And
2524.24	2527.15	A:	[JERRY] it was small town. It was out of Houston, you know.
2527.09	2527.86	A:	[LABOV] Mhm.
2528.44	2532.31	A:	[JERRY] Uh, and n- -- he said, you're drunk, you son of a bitch, you're going to jail.
2532.31	2536.67	A:	[JERRY] And I said, well, you low down bastard, I'm not a son of a bitch. You know, like that?
2532.34	2532.68	A:	[LABOV] Yep.
2537.28	2537.74	A:	[JERRY] And
2538.47	2539.32	A:	[JERRY] he
2539.32	2542.74	A:	[JERRY] hit me. And he ug- -- kind of ducked, and it glanced off my jaw,
2542.74	2548.83	A:	[JERRY] and I hit him right in the gut, just as hard as I could, and then kicked him right in here, and he went out when the highway patrol come up.
2549.52	2550.77	A:	[JERRY] Pull in behind me.
2550.77	2552.66	A:	[JERRY] And I just quit, and I backed off.
2553.24	2560.91	A:	[JERRY] Set there and boy, they socked it to me. Two hundred dollar fine and all this junk. But he -- he didn't have any right to call me a son of a bitch.
2561.70	2566.64	A:	[JERRY] I ai- -- it just -- an- -- but what happened they -- they got me down there in -- in --
2566.64	2568.07	A:	[JERRY] took me to jail.
2568.07	2570.18	A:	[JERRY] Had to stay in jail overnight.
2570.18	2574.00	A:	[JERRY] Until my boss man come got -- he come got me out.
2574.00	2575.19	A:	[JERRY] But they uh
2575.87	2577.66	A:	[JERRY] beat the crap out of me.
2577.66	2582.91	A:	[JERRY] Three of them got me back in there and beat me with rubber hoses and everything. You know, I heard about it, but I never --
2582.91	2585.17	A:	[JERRY] being from small town, I never have --
2583.49	2584.44	A:	[LABOV] Oh.
2585.24	2588.64	A:	[LABOV] Uh, in the big city you hear a lot about that and especially Negro fellows.
2588.28	2589.13	A:	[JERRY] Right.
2588.64	2593.98	A:	[LABOV] You see, if you -- there's t- -- three things that will help you in this country. One is you got to be born with money. That helps.
2593.63	2594.99	A:	[JERRY] Oh, yeah.
2593.98	2597.73	A:	[LABOV] Second, you got to sure to be born white, that definitely helps.
2596.80	2597.71	A:	[JERRY] Mhm.
2597.73	2603.07	A:	[LABOV] And the third thing is, uh, just don't be in the wrong place wrong uh -- wrong time.
2602.21	2603.11	A:	[JERRY] Mm.
2603.07	2604.06	A:	[LABOV] Uh.
2604.06	2611.91	A:	[LABOV] You know, but th- -- stay away from Mexican jails. Jesus Christ, I have some friends who got stuck in a Mexican jail, and that is the bottom of the -- you're lucky to get out alive.
2613.15	2616.37	A:	[LABOV] First, they take whatever money you got, and then they --
2616.37	2619.46	A:	[LABOV] it's really ((bad shape)). Um.
2619.61	2622.77	A:	[JERRY] ((I've)) known people got put in jail over in Mexico.
2623.67	2626.03	A:	[LABOV] ((This is drowning -- ))
2628.51	2631.77	A:	[LABOV] ((You must have uh --)) How did you make out in the service, though? You must have --
2631.77	2634.00	A:	[LABOV] you know, you have to just take an awful lot of shit.
2634.22	2638.62	A:	[JERRY] Oh, I had uh real good time. Now, see here's -- I was only Texan in my company.
2638.48	2639.00	A:	[LABOV] Yeah.
2639.51	2642.15	A:	[JERRY] But all the cadre was Texan, so --
2642.09	2642.83	A:	[LABOV] Oh.
2643.06	2646.09	A:	[JERRY] from -- from sergeant major on down. Ev- --
2646.09	2649.47	A:	[JERRY] There's just one or two that wasn't Texan in that whole ((bunch)).
2650.31	2652.09	A:	[JERRY] And the mess sergeant --
2651.08	2652.83	A:	[LABOV] (( )) ((you and your)) 
2652.83	2658.08	A:	[LABOV] crazy Texas (( )) -- while you were talking to -- some of those guys, I was thinking more about these --
2658.08	2659.52	A:	[LABOV] there was a- -- I made
2659.52	2662.22	A:	[LABOV] a list of more of the words that I know that you say
2662.22	2664.17	A:	[LABOV] as different from me as night and day.
2664.17	2665.84	A:	[LABOV] Read these off for me.
2665.99	2667.09	A:	[JERRY] ((Hill)).
2667.09	2668.07	A:	[JERRY] ((Heel)).
2668.05	2669.28	A:	[LABOV] They're exactly the same, right?
2669.27	2670.00	A:	[JERRY] Yeah.
2669.96	2670.75	A:	[LABOV] And this one?
2670.76	2672.02	A:	[JERRY] ((Sale and sail)).
2671.85	2672.63	A:	[LABOV] They're the same.
2672.62	2673.18	A:	[JERRY] Right.
2673.35	2674.45	A:	[LABOV] And how about these two?
2674.56	2675.78	A:	[JERRY] ((Horse and hoar-)) --
2675.78	2677.31	A:	[JERRY] Horse and hoarse.
2677.25	2678.27	A:	[LABOV] Now, they're different.
2678.11	2680.39	A:	[JERRY] Yeah, ((mourning)) and ((morning)), they're the same.
2680.30	2681.30	A:	[LABOV] How about these two?
2681.26	2682.42	A:	[JERRY] ((Lure)) and ((lower)).
2682.41	2683.46	A:	[LABOV] They're different.
2683.57	2684.89	A:	[JERRY] And ((pill)) and ((peel)).
2684.72	2685.32	A:	[LABOV] They're the same.
2685.24	2685.85	A:	[JERRY] Yeah.
2685.85	2687.09	A:	[JERRY] ((Hot, har- -- ))
2686.39	2687.86	A:	[LABOV] ((Wait, wait.))
2688.95	2691.84	A:	[LABOV] (( )) ((son of a bitch)). ((Boy, do they)) --
2691.78	2692.39	A:	[JERRY] Huh?
2692.55	2694.92	A:	[LABOV] Why does he make so much fucking noise for. Go ahead.
2694.92	2696.38	A:	[LABOV] Ah, this one here.
2695.78	2698.45	A:	[JERRY] I- -- it was uh ((hot)) and ((hart)).
2698.63	2700.06	A:	[LABOV] See, (( )).
2700.20	2702.87	A:	[JERRY] ((Hot)) and ((hart)) and then there's hard.
2702.87	2704.34	A:	[JERRY] Got and God.
2705.11	2707.03	A:	[LABOV] This is hard, yeah.
2707.93	2709.30	A:	[LABOV] Yeah. And this one.
2708.00	2710.18	A:	[JERRY] And fool, full.
2710.18	2712.25	A:	[JERRY] ((Luke)) and look.
2712.25	2714.40	A:	[JERRY] Luck, lock, done.
2714.40	2715.43	A:	[JERRY] and ((Don)).
2715.43	2717.84	A:	[JERRY] ((Dawn, hock, and hawk.))
2717.84	2720.21	A:	[JERRY] ((Marry and merry and Mary.))
2720.21	2724.87	A:	[JERRY] ((Cora)) and ((Laura)) and star- -- +starry, I guess. Starry?
2723.23	2724.75	A:	[LABOV] No, starry, like ((star)).
2724.87	2727.06	A:	[JERRY] Uh, starry and sorry.
2727.06	2732.32	A:	[JERRY] and ((pen, pin, pan, pain, think, and thank)).
2732.32	2733.64	A:	[JERRY] And
2733.64	2734.70	A:	[JERRY] penguin.
2734.70	2737.80	A:	[JERRY] And o- on -- on a ((think)), I don't rar- --
2734.98	2736.62	A:	[LABOV] Yeah s- s- (( )) --
2737.80	2739.42	A:	[JERRY] I don't use that word very often.
2739.21	2740.24	A:	[LABOV] You say thank. 
2740.13	2740.65	A:	[JERRY] Yeah.
2741.27	2742.99	A:	[JERRY] You ever think about something, I ((think)).
2742.99	2744.68	A:	[JERRY] ((But)) reading it, you know, I --
2743.63	2745.42	A:	[LABOV] That's a big uh --
2745.43	2751.03	A:	[JERRY] And my speech is different from when I just setting and talking and then when I am reading it, you know.
2751.18	2753.45	A:	[LABOV] Oh, yeah, sure, I know a lot about that.
2752.41	2753.13	A:	[JERRY] Something --
2753.45	2755.33	A:	[LABOV] Yeah. I was uh --
2755.33	2758.36	A:	[LABOV] uh everybody talks a little different when they read things off.
2758.36	2762.87	A:	[LABOV] But ah I was having a lot of fun because, see, you say feel and fill the same.
2762.87	2768.37	A:	[LABOV] When I was out in uh Arizona, they say fool and full the same.
2768.37	2770.65	A:	[LABOV] And they can't ((make out)) (( )).
2773.41	2774.90	A:	[JERRY] ((Fool)) and ((full)).
2774.82	2775.51	A:	[LABOV] ((What?))
2775.54	2776.51	A:	[JERRY] What, fool.
2776.18	2778.76	A:	[LABOV] Fool and full, they say them exactly the same.
2778.72	2780.60	A:	[JERRY] I say fool and full.
2778.76	2779.61	A:	[LABOV] Fool and full.
2780.65	2781.42	A:	[LABOV] Yeah.
2781.42	2786.98	A:	[LABOV] And I don't know exactly why it should be, but I -- it's a lot of fun to see the -- the differences. Well, listen, uh
2788.19	2789.18	A:	[LABOV] ((I'm going to))
2789.76	2792.12	A:	[LABOV] get over here and hit the rack and
2792.12	2793.70	A:	[LABOV] get up real early.
2794.35	2795.49	A:	[LABOV] You uh.
2798.50	2801.44	A:	[JERRY] Well, I've enjoyed talking to you.
2800.99	2802.26	A:	[LABOV] (( )) is there -- let me ask you.
2802.97	2808.39	A:	[LABOV] Suppose I say is there one thing that you remember happening to you in your life so far that you would never forget.
2809.98	2813.90	A:	[LABOV] You know, tha- -- that -- that just the way the world was like, like that. What would that be?
2814.80	2815.38	A:	[JERRY] Huh.
2818.98	2820.05	A:	[JERRY] I don't know.
2820.82	2822.73	A:	[JERRY] Wouldn't know how to answer that.
2821.59	2824.99	A:	[LABOV] You got a hell of a lot of stuff happen already, and you're only twenty.
2826.11	2828.54	A:	[LABOV] If you ever make forty, you'll have a l- -- lot of --
2832.41	2834.64	A:	[JERRY] One thing that I'll never forget.
2838.91	2839.72	A:	[JERRY] Hm.
2842.97	2844.34	A:	[LABOV] Is there anybody in your family --
2843.69	2846.28	A:	[JERRY] One thing I'll never forget is falling in the well.
2846.49	2847.33	A:	[LABOV] Yeah?
2848.26	2848.97	A:	[LABOV] What do you mean?
2848.97	2851.53	A:	[JERRY] Well, I fell in well one time. That's about it.
2850.86	2851.61	A:	[LABOV] You did?
2851.53	2852.71	A:	[JERRY] ((Yeah, when I was a kid)).
2851.61	2852.77	A:	[LABOV] Well, what happened?
2852.71	2855.65	A:	[JERRY] Uh, well, I didn't fall, went down in it after a 
2855.65	2857.40	A:	[JERRY] goat, that fell in it.
2857.40	2859.55	A:	[JERRY] And it was an old hand dug well, you know ((what I mean)).
2859.55	2861.39	A:	[JERRY] Is seventy-five foot
2861.39	2862.49	A:	[JERRY] deep.
2862.49	2864.10	A:	[JERRY] And I wen- -- I went in it,
2864.10	2867.30	A:	[JERRY] had a big rope tied around my waist. And I ((roped up))
2867.30	2872.64	A:	[JERRY] the goat. I hung up pretty high, I roped it. Big old Spanish mutton, what it was.
2872.64	2875.94	A:	[JERRY] And they's pulling me back up, I just coming out.
2875.94	2880.58	A:	[JERRY] And that -- the guy was holding pulley over there on side, ((and was)) pulling it with a pickup.
2880.58	2881.44	A:	[JERRY] (( )).
2881.44	2884.98	A:	[JERRY] And he left that pulley gone right over there to help me out, and it cut the rope,
2884.98	2888.43	A:	[JERRY] and that goat pull me back down, and it like beating me to death.
2888.43	2893.53	A:	[JERRY] On the way down. That's another time I -- I got -- figured I was about dead.
2888.68	2891.64	A:	[LABOV] S- -- seventy-five feet.
2893.53	2896.97	A:	[JERRY] Yeah. And it wasn't but that much water in the bottom.
2896.82	2899.13	A:	[LABOV] Well, oh man.
2898.96	2902.47	A:	[JERRY] I hit right on the goat, and if I hadn't hit on him, it probably kill me.
2902.60	2904.26	A:	[LABOV] You must have knocked the shit out of that goat.
2904.64	2909.59	A:	[JERRY] Well, he went baa, and I just stuck his head under what little water there was and killed him. I was mad.
2909.59	2914.40	A:	[JERRY] Boy, I was mad. Then I had stand in there three hours, waiting for they come ((with)) that winch truck.
2915.26	2918.93	A:	[JERRY] And that's a long ways, looking up that little bitty hole up there top.
2917.72	2919.65	A:	[LABOV] Ha ha, on the dead goat.
2921.35	2922.44	A:	[LABOV] Ain't that something.
2922.44	2924.27	A:	[LABOV] That's the craziest story I have ever heard.
2924.14	2925.80	A:	[JERRY] Well, I'll never forget that.
2925.80	2931.91	A:	[JERRY] I went over there, it's a neighbor's ((there)) when we lived down here ((at)) Leakey ranch right across, and they called me.
2931.91	2935.30	A:	[JERRY] Wanted me come, go in there and get that goat, and I said, hell, all right.
2936.04	2937.92	A:	[JERRY] And I went over there,
2937.92	2941.33	A:	[JERRY] I come back in. My mother and them was getting worried about me.
2941.33	2945.12	A:	[JERRY] I come back in uh -- it scraped all the hide off my back.
2945.12	2949.25	A:	[JERRY] Knocked i- -- up here in my head, knocked uh big hole right back here.
2949.25	2950.72	A:	[JERRY] And just tore me up.
2951.31	2954.41	A:	[LABOV] I figure if anybody asks me to get a goat out of a well, I ain't going to do it.
2956.13	2958.76	A:	[LABOV] Yeah, you got a real honest-to-God customer there.