1.11	6.69	A:	[KATHY] Didn't want to get one just like hers, so I had to get purple.
8.33	9.79	A:	[KATHY] (( ))
10.73	13.79	A:	[INTER] You got a lot of line yet, so don't worry.
14.56	16.21	A:	[INTER] Okay. You wa- -- count to ten again.
16.15	19.64	A:	[KATHY] One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten.
19.75	20.52	A:	[INTER] Okay.
20.52	23.04	A:	[INTER] Okay. Now go ahead and tell me about that fighting --
23.04	24.63	A:	[INTER] About your fight.
24.75	26.03	A:	[KATHY] Which one?
25.16	27.44	A:	[INTER] Just what you -- just what you were saying before.
27.59	29.03	A:	[KATHY] Oh boy.
29.03	33.10	A:	[KATHY] Oh w- -- I don't --
33.10	35.05	A:	[KATHY] I feel stupid
34.22	36.49	A:	[INTER] We'll be ((gone)) in a little while, okay.
37.78	39.74	A:	[KATHY] Doorbell. Might be Ken.
40.30	41.98	A:	[KATHY] Naw, he wouldn't call.
42.36	43.94	A:	[INTER] Would he ring the doorbell like that?
43.70	45.64	A:	[KATHY] No. It was my brother.
45.59	46.39	A:	[INTER] Oh.
46.39	47.79	A:	[INTER] Besides, he is polite. 
46.94	47.42	A:	[KATHY] He is --
47.79	52.06	A:	[KATHY] Yeah, he is very polite. Eh -- um -- mm.
51.40	54.15	A:	[INTER] Eh so tell me -- tell me about that fight with Lynn again.
52.42	52.74	A:	[KATHY] Mm.
54.10	56.16	A:	[KATHY] Uh. Well 
56.16	57.26	A:	[KATHY] mm
57.26	58.95	A:	[KATHY] Well, um you know
58.79	59.76	A:	[INTER] About how it started.
59.76	63.10	A:	[INTER] That whole thing, like when you left the house and went through the woods and got all wet.
63.04	65.10	A:	[KATHY] Oh, about Lynn.
65.10	66.03	A:	[KATHY] Well, see,
66.03	68.36	A:	[KATHY] you know it was bad day and Dan 
68.36	69.20	A:	[KATHY] was over.
69.20	73.83	A:	[KATHY] And you know, he -- you know I'm nervous.
73.77	74.98	A:	[INTER] Oh, don't be nervous.
74.94	75.40	A:	[KATHY] Um
74.98	78.23	A:	[INTER] Because no, this is uh -- really nothing to be nervous about.
78.14	79.04	A:	[KATHY] Okay. 
80.37	81.25	A:	[KATHY] Um
81.25	82.68	A:	[KATHY] well see d- -- um
82.68	83.92	A:	[KATHY] Da- --
82.80	84.93	A:	[INTER] You just broke up du- -- with Dan recently then, huh?
84.84	88.55	A:	[KATHY] No, I'm broke up with him March twenty-eighth.
88.63	90.24	A:	[INTER] Oh, I though it was just recent.
90.09	92.52	A:	[KATHY] No, but I liked him since
92.52	94.56	A:	[KATHY] I've always liked him you know.
94.22	96.58	A:	[INTER] Because Elizabeth was telling me about -- about him.
96.58	100.64	A:	[INTER] And I thought he was like going to be the super, final one. 
96.61	96.99	A:	[KATHY] Yeah.
100.64	104.98	A:	[KATHY] No, he wouldn't be the super final one to no t- -- girl.
104.98	109.32	A:	[KATHY] I mean really he has always been (( ))
109.91	112.61	A:	[KATHY] I mean he'll treat a girl like shit and 
113.26	114.43	A:	[INTER] Does he get away with it?
113.28	114.53	A:	[KATHY] drop her.
114.53	115.16	A:	[KATHY] Yeah.
115.44	116.04	A:	[INTER] Why?
116.16	118.57	A:	[KATHY] I don't know she -- he always does.
118.57	124.63	A:	[KATHY] I mean, see, I don't know why, but he is always the type of guy -- i- -- he is very cute.
125.07	126.27	A:	[KATHY] Very cute.
126.81	133.83	A:	[KATHY] I mean blonde hair and you know, eh you look at him and you'll give him a second glance anyways.
133.83	135.03	A:	[KATHY] And you know,
134.80	135.63	A:	[INTER] Is he tall?
135.03	135.63	A:	[KATHY] (( )) 
135.63	139.79	A:	[KATHY] Yeah he is tall and y- he -- he is beautiful. I mean 
139.79	142.42	A:	[KATHY] really. And
143.12	148.00	A:	[KATHY] and I liked him since -- I liked him a couple weeks before he liked me. 
148.66	150.62	A:	[KATHY] And um then
150.94	153.65	A:	[KATHY] He -- we went to the -- oh
153.65	156.10	A:	[KATHY] you want to hear when we started liking each other?
154.66	155.33	A:	[INTER] Yes.
156.10	158.15	A:	[KATHY] Well it was in -- um
158.70	164.57	A:	[KATHY] His best boyfriend asked me if he -- I would like to go downtown with him. And I go, eh I guess so, you know
164.57	168.03	A:	[KATHY] ((he goes)) Dan will be there. And I go, oh, okay then I'll go you know.
168.03	169.05	A:	[KATHY] He'll be with Sheryl. 
169.05	171.25	A:	[KATHY] I go okay, sure, you know, I might as well
171.49	173.45	A:	[KATHY] get to know Dan better, you know.
173.45	180.21	A:	[KATHY] So you know that -- It was a Saturday um Jim calls me says that um he was going to --
180.45	184.58	A:	[KATHY] Um are we still going downtown? I go sure, might as well, you know.
184.58	185.91	A:	[KATHY] And I had June 
185.91	191.28	A:	[KATHY] over and she said she didn't really want to go downtown. So I go, no let's go to the mall instead, you know.
191.28	194.56	A:	[KATHY] Goes, well Dan can't find Sheryl's number so um 
194.87	197.33	A:	[KATHY] Dan will just have to come along anyways.
197.33	200.05	A:	[KATHY] I go okay, you know. So I went to the mall.
200.28	203.32	A:	[KATHY] And I met -- I met Dan and Jim.
203.58	204.99	A:	[KATHY] And June was with me.
204.99	209.38	A:	[KATHY] And June didn't really like them two because she didn't really know them.
209.30	210.84	A:	[INTER] Is this your friend before Lynn?
209.38	210.04	A:	[KATHY] And that's
210.70	211.44	A:	[KATHY] Yeah.
211.44	212.15	A:	[KATHY] It was 
212.15	212.98	A:	[KATHY] #Name_suppressed#
213.48	215.83	A:	[KATHY] We got in a lot of trouble together.
215.83	221.43	A:	[KATHY] And um, so you know, um we met Dan. 
221.43	225.67	A:	[KATHY] And um, June left because she didn't want to hang around with them anymore and -- 
225.67	226.03	A:	[KATHY] Terri 
226.03	227.65	A:	[KATHY] get the hell out of here.
229.90	230.92	A:	[KATHY] Later.
232.26	233.26	A:	[KATHY] So um.
233.67	235.72	A:	[KATHY] You know um.
235.72	238.07	A:	[KATHY] June left and we went downtown.
238.49	239.14	A:	[KATHY] D- um, 
239.14	240.53	A:	[KATHY] Jim paid my way up and 
240.53	241.92	A:	[KATHY] Dan paid my way back.
241.92	246.19	A:	[KATHY] And I don't -- I had never went downtown before, you know and I w- -- I -- you know I
246.17	248.04	A:	[INTER] Oh you don't hangout in the mall there?
246.19	247.09	A:	[KATHY] You know
247.95	250.20	A:	[KATHY] No I never d- I -- I went
250.20	253.37	A:	[KATHY] couple times but, not very much. I never went
253.37	256.94	A:	[KATHY] that i- -- it was the first time I went in October
256.94	259.02	A:	[KATHY] (( )) Yeah, October.
259.38	261.32	A:	[KATHY] It was October eleventh.
261.86	263.48	A:	[KATHY] Um, and then.
264.20	265.37	A:	[KATHY] You know, I got mad at 
265.37	268.01	A:	[KATHY] Dan for some reason coming home on the bus.
268.01	272.26	A:	[KATHY] And I w- -- I asked him if he wanted me to leave and he goes no, if you want you can stay and 
272.26	272.92	A:	[KATHY] Jim said, 
272.92	276.93	A:	[KATHY] we could go over to his house and play records for a little while. So I go okay.
277.68	279.08	A:	[KATHY] And then um, 
279.08	280.31	A:	[KATHY] Dan had to go in.
280.31	285.23	A:	[KATHY] And you know so I went over and stood -- I was still waiting for Dan 
285.23	286.19	A:	[KATHY] to come out, you know. 
286.44	293.53	A:	[KATHY] And Jim comes over and tells me to go wait in his back yard, you know. So I go over and wait in his back -- yard for his parents to leave.
294.00	295.36	A:	[KATHY] And um.
295.36	300.35	A:	[KATHY] Jim comes down and tells me how much he loves me, and starts kissing me. 
300.35	302.71	A:	[KATHY] And you know he said Dan couldn't t- -- um 
302.71	307.73	A:	[KATHY] Dan t- -- couldn't come out anymore, and he never wanted to see me and all this stuff, so, you know. 
307.73	314.41	A:	[KATHY] He asked me if I wanted to stay for a little while and wait for his parents to go. So I go no, never mind, I don't want to stay, you know.
314.41	315.72	A:	[KATHY] Is this because of Dan? 
315.72	317.40	A:	[KATHY] and I go no, it's not because of Dan, 
317.20	317.70	A:	[INTER] Right.
317.40	317.81	A:	[KATHY] you know.
317.81	322.31	A:	[KATHY] So I don't know why but I walked down -- back down Dan's house.
322.31	329.50	A:	[KATHY] I -- I just don't know why and Dan ran from the other side f- -- not from his house but, down the street, you know. 
329.50	332.12	A:	[KATHY] He turns around and I -- I told him all about Dan, 
332.12	333.76	A:	[KATHY] so we went down to see Steve,
333.76	335.26	A:	[KATHY] his best boyfriend.
335.26	339.55	A:	[KATHY] And we -- I went down there and you know we're sitting there talking
339.55	346.27	A:	[KATHY] was getting -- nine o'clock, you know, and I -- I haven't been home since -- I left the house at twelve, you know, so.
346.27	347.92	A:	[KATHY] I um
349.35	354.67	A:	[KATHY] I eh -- so Dan walked me home and h- he was held -- held my hand
354.67	355.90	A:	[KATHY] and you know.
356.05	358.07	A:	[KATHY] And he was -- swung his hand back,
358.07	362.45	A:	[KATHY] in my back and we came about an inch from kissing, you know. 
361.59	362.20	A:	[INTER] Right.
362.45	364.49	A:	[KATHY] And -- and then he backed away.
364.49	368.17	A:	[KATHY] And we walked a little while and then he did again, you know he kissed me. 
368.17	371.03	A:	[KATHY] And we were kissing for a little while you know.
371.03	372.87	A:	[KATHY] And then um
373.19	379.98	A:	[KATHY] we were walking up and down uh -- this street so he wouldn't leave me and I wouldn't leave him because
378.59	379.06	A:	[INTER] Right.
379.98	385.56	A:	[KATHY] he wanted we -- walk me half-way home. So I had to walk him back half-way home. So, you know
385.56	388.23	A:	[KATHY] finally we ended up sitting down and talking.
388.56	393.62	A:	[KATHY] And you know, I go, well it's getting late. You know neither of us had a watch on.
393.62	396.23	A:	[KATHY] ((Go)) well it's getting late. I'd better go, you know.
396.42	400.99	A:	[KATHY] My parents expected me home at eight o'clock, you know. Oh good.
400.99	404.65	A:	[KATHY] So I go, well I'll see you, Dan. You know, walked away from him. 
405.07	406.87	A:	[KATHY] And he goes, didn't you forget nothing?
406.87	410.04	A:	[KATHY] I checked my pockets, I go, no I didn't forget nothing, you know.
410.04	411.88	A:	[KATHY] ((He says)) you forgot to kiss me goodbye. 
411.88	414.26	A:	[KATHY] I go, oh was I supposed to? He goes, yeah.
414.26	415.25	A:	[KATHY] I go, why?
415.25	419.37	A:	[KATHY] He goes, because we been doing it all night. I go is that -- that's no reason.
419.24	419.96	A:	[INTER] Uh-huh.
419.81	422.88	A:	[KATHY] He goes, I guess we like each other. And pauses. 
422.88	426.96	A:	[KATHY] And he goes, well I like you. And I go, aw that's good and I kissed him.
427.17	429.13	A:	[KATHY] Goes, aren't you going to say anything?
429.13	432.89	A:	[KATHY] I go, oh, I like you, too, you know.
432.89	436.19	A:	[KATHY] And then there's -- you know it got better and better and better.
436.19	438.94	A:	[KATHY] We do -- we did like him a lot.
440.89	443.73	A:	[KATHY] But, eh, I don't want to go back with him.
443.73	445.35	A:	[KATHY] He treated me like shit.
445.35	452.35	A:	[KATHY] Because I -- you know when I was out -- when I go out with guys, I don't mind walking -- walking 
452.35	455.22	A:	[KATHY] walking for them. Going over to see them.
455.22	458.21	A:	[KATHY] How far they live. I went over his house
456.34	456.77	A:	[INTER] Yeah.
458.21	460.47	A:	[KATHY] every -- almost every night.
461.22	464.64	A:	[KATHY] And every n- -- um walking back and forth.
465.19	466.66	A:	[KATHY] And he w- -- you know,
467.12	468.02	A:	[KATHY] and
467.82	469.57	A:	[INTER] He didn't come over to see you?
468.50	470.92	A:	[KATHY] he -- he never came over and saw me.
471.24	471.79	A:	[KATHY] Never.
472.28	473.36	A:	[INTER] Why was that?
472.35	474.80	A:	[KATHY] Well, once in while he did. 
474.80	478.35	A:	[KATHY] But when he p- made plans to come over and see me
478.86	483.87	A:	[KATHY] and he was supposed to come over about seven. You know he called up about ten after seven. He says, 
483.87	484.41	A:	[KATHY] Kathy, 
484.41	485.65	A:	[KATHY] I can't make it.
485.65	489.41	A:	[INTER] Why was that? Was it because of his parents? Or just because he didn't want to come over.
487.41	489.35	A:	[KATHY] No, because he didn't want to.
489.35	491.67	A:	[KATHY] He didn't want to walk two miles and a half, you know.
491.50	492.15	A:	[INTER] Uh-huh.
492.15	493.33	A:	[KATHY] He is a brat like that.
494.59	497.96	A:	[INTER] Oh and -- and you can't drive ((at)) sixteen here.
497.84	498.61	A:	[KATHY] Right.
499.26	502.60	A:	[KATHY] Oh well, we get our permits, but that's about all, you know.
503.29	504.38	A:	[INTER] Do you have one?
503.38	504.25	A:	[KATHY] Eh?
504.25	507.79	A:	[KATHY] No not yet. I just turned sixteen when you turned twenty-three.
507.83	509.00	A:	[INTER] Oh that's right.
508.96	509.90	A:	[KATHY] Day before you.
509.00	510.62	A:	[INTER] Are you going to get one?
510.46	512.69	A:	[KATHY] I want to. I want to get a Honda.
512.69	513.98	A:	[KATHY] I love them things.
513.80	514.95	A:	[INTER] ((Uh ah -- how big you want?))
514.83	515.54	A:	[KATHY] Ninety.
516.74	518.09	A:	[KATHY] But, you know.
517.21	519.12	A:	[INTER] ((Uh)) do you think your parents will let you?
518.83	522.94	A:	[KATHY] Yeah they -- they -- they said I could as long as I um 
523.51	525.87	A:	[KATHY] I pay half of it for it, you know.
526.25	527.61	A:	[KATHY] ((But)) me
527.86	533.01	A:	[KATHY] I, you know I was supposed to be able to h- -- save up a hundred and fifty bucks this whole summer.
533.01	534.83	A:	[KATHY] I get fifteen dollars a week.
534.62	535.18	A:	[INTER] Oh.
535.48	537.21	A:	[KATHY] For baby-sitting my little brat.
537.41	538.76	A:	[KATHY] And well,
540.00	541.95	A:	[KATHY] I got about ten bucks in the bank.
541.71	543.62	A:	[INTER] I was going to say, ((it goes)) pretty quickly. 
543.23	548.53	A:	[KATHY] Yes, it does. Very quickly. I don't know what I spent it on, you know.
548.53	550.38	A:	[KATHY] Espec- -- mostly cigarettes.
551.45	552.93	A:	[KATHY] I smoke too much.
553.22	555.31	A:	[KATHY] But Ken is a real doll. I mean
556.23	558.15	A:	[KATHY] he -- he'll do anything.
558.15	564.95	A:	[KATHY] I mean he is very short on money now, he -- he just got fired from his job because he didn't go in Wednesday to see me, you know.
564.95	566.08	A:	[INTER] Where was he working?
566.08	566.85	A:	[KATHY] Um
567.41	569.65	A:	[KATHY] right across the s- -- um
570.50	571.51	A:	[KATHY] What is it?
572.15	574.70	A:	[KATHY] Oh, I forgot the name of it.
574.95	579.92	A:	[KATHY] (( )) he was -- he'd put b- um boxes away and everything.
579.92	581.37	A:	[INTER] With Kodak or uh?
581.08	583.96	A:	[KATHY] No it's right across the street from Saint John's. 
583.96	585.00	A:	[KATHY] Near the mall.
585.47	587.80	A:	[INTER] Oh, is that where they have like tops and that?
588.07	588.72	A:	[KATHY] Mm mm.
588.08	588.94	A:	[INTER] No.
588.72	591.17	A:	[KATHY] You know where the mall is, right there? 
591.17	593.20	A:	[INTER] No, I'm not very familiar with this part (( )).
592.67	593.82	A:	[KATHY] Oh, well
594.31	598.34	A:	[INTER] Because I haven't -- I haven't been out here ((it's)) all -- all newly developed since I --
595.40	596.59	A:	[KATHY] Forman's
598.34	600.81	A:	[INTER] Oh you mean eh -- the mall downtown.
600.76	602.29	A:	[KATHY] No the mall up here.
602.98	604.23	A:	[KATHY] Greece town mall
604.65	605.62	A:	[INTER] ((I)) don't know it.
605.50	606.69	A:	[KATHY] ((Oh well. O- --))
608.09	609.48	A:	[KATHY] (( ))
608.60	609.62	A:	[INTER] How did you meet him?
609.48	613.06	A:	[KATHY] I uv- -- well I met him -- it wa- -- it was uh
613.06	614.42	A:	[KATHY] Monday night.
615.55	621.26	A:	[KATHY] That was fast. It's -- it was Monday night you know, last Monday, and he comes
621.26	624.28	A:	[KATHY] you know, I went to the coffee house. I don't know why. 
624.28	625.77	A:	[KATHY] I just went you know.
625.77	628.11	A:	[KATHY] And I was wearing a short shirt.
628.78	631.96	A:	[KATHY] And my jeans and Linda came with me you know.
631.96	634.49	A:	[KATHY] And I was horsing around with all the guys.
634.49	637.26	A:	[KATHY] And I don't know how it really happened but,
637.26	638.86	A:	[KATHY] he found out my name.
639.40	640.73	A:	[KATHY] And, you know,
641.13	641.97	A:	[KATHY] he -- 
641.97	649.15	A:	[KATHY] you know, he liked me, and walked me half-way home and kissed me goodbye, and said he would -- he was going to see me um Tuesday.
649.56	653.96	A:	[KATHY] So I go, okay I'll go to the coffee house Tuesday. I went to the coffee house Tuesday.
654.20	656.33	A:	[KATHY] And I was with him for a little while.
656.33	660.07	A:	[KATHY] And he asked me if I -- I want -- like to go the co- -- um
660.69	663.84	A:	[KATHY] um pizza with him. I go, sure why not, you know
663.84	667.24	A:	[KATHY] And he gave me five dollars on my birthday. I showed you the card.
667.24	672.69	A:	[KATHY] And you know, I didn't expect it at all because, you know, I just met him Monday and he gives me a 
672.69	675.52	A:	[KATHY] a you know, birthday card Tuesday.
676.19	677.54	A:	[KATHY] So you know,
677.89	681.66	A:	[KATHY] He we went out, and they were making me so embarrassed.
681.66	682.71	A:	[KATHY] They was
681.82	683.92	A:	[INTER] ((Oh is this when those)) guys were all drunk?
683.50	684.18	A:	[KATHY] Yeah.
683.92	684.37	A:	[INTER] Yeah.
684.67	688.13	A:	[KATHY] Th- -- you know they got three -- w- one large pizza
688.13	693.19	A:	[KATHY] with um mozzarella and pepper- -- mozzarella and um
694.33	699.62	A:	[KATHY] mushrooms and ((all that)) -- all this stuff and it look -- you know, it looked sick. 
696.09	696.52	A:	[INTER] Right.
699.62	704.48	A:	[KATHY] And then two small pizzas with just um mozzarella you know.
704.95	711.60	A:	[KATHY] So you know, one guy he -- he had to eat this big pizza by hisself you know -- ((oh, and sits on it)), you know.
711.60	718.70	A:	[KATHY] ((and he is g- --)) you know, I'm sitting there trying not to laugh, and I'm so embarrassed because everybody is looking at us, you know. 
718.30	718.72	A:	[INTER] Uh-huh.
718.70	722.61	A:	[KATHY] I go, would you shut up? Everybody is looking at -- and um one of the kids goes
722.61	728.01	A:	[KATHY] Yeah who? I'll show you. ((I'm staring)) them out, you know. And he looked at everybody, you know, 
728.01	733.28	A:	[KATHY] staring at everybody. I felt so embarrassed. And then they -- you know take the napkins
733.28	739.34	A:	[KATHY] the drunk ones there, i- -- they started g- -- uh +pretending they're puking you know. ((Eh.)) 
738.32	738.78	A:	[INTER] Right.
739.34	746.81	A:	[KATHY] Then I fel- -- I felt like this, I'll be -- I'll go -- I w- -- I said I'll be right back. And I left. Oh. 
746.81	749.04	A:	[KATHY] And so they drove me home and
749.04	751.08	A:	[KATHY] Wednesday, you know Ken -- 
751.08	753.38	A:	[KATHY] I met Ken at the dance and he goes,
753.38	758.91	A:	[KATHY] I'm sorry you know, u- all this stuff. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, please forgive me.
758.62	761.08	A:	[INTER] Was he friends with these guys or did he just happen -- Yeah
759.95	760.44	A:	[KATHY] Yeah.
760.92	764.81	A:	[KATHY] He is friends with these guys but he doesn't really like them because they -- you know. 
765.69	767.67	A:	[KATHY] ((It)) just somebody you hang around with.
767.94	769.39	A:	[KATHY] And -- you know
770.66	772.52	A:	[KATHY] so 
774.26	777.01	A:	[KATHY] He w- -- he came over Friday, all day.
777.01	782.26	A:	[KATHY] He had chic- -- he -- he stayed for supper and we -- I made him chicken. He liked it a lot.
782.74	785.93	A:	[INTER] Do you have the run of the house pretty much here by yourself ((with Caroline))? 
784.79	785.74	A:	[KATHY] Yeah.
785.74	786.53	A:	[KATHY] Yeah.
785.93	787.13	A:	[INTER] That's nice.
787.02	788.80	A:	[KATHY] I mean I could, you know,
788.80	791.43	A:	[KATHY] when I wake up in the morning ol- only my
791.43	793.01	A:	[KATHY] sister is here and sh-
792.71	793.86	A:	[INTER] How long does she stay here?
793.95	797.53	A:	[KATHY] Well um usually when she is working, twelve.
797.53	800.23	A:	[KATHY] And ma- -- maybe even one. But
800.23	801.99	A:	[KATHY] usually, twelve she leaves
801.14	802.53	A:	[INTER] She works at night then.
802.92	804.18	A:	[KATHY] Until -- yeah.
804.92	806.40	A:	[KATHY] She g- -- um
806.78	809.42	A:	[KATHY] Sometimes she works from twelve to
809.42	812.28	A:	[KATHY] eight thirty. And sometimes she works from 
812.28	813.89	A:	[KATHY] one thirty to
814.95	815.80	A:	[KATHY] ten
816.34	817.57	A:	[INTER] Do want to eat?
817.42	821.01	A:	[KATHY] No, not yet. I'm not very hungry.
818.21	819.01	A:	[INTER] Okay.
823.00	824.46	A:	[INTER] I'm going to take one of these this time.
824.33	825.44	A:	[KATHY] Okay.
825.44	827.31	A:	[KATHY] ((Wait)) a minute I'll get you my lighter.
828.68	830.84	A:	[KATHY] Lynn gave me that for my birthday.
832.53	836.06	A:	[KATHY] I always wanted a lighter because I always l- -- run out of matches. 
835.86	836.42	A:	[INTER] Yeah.
836.42	837.85	A:	[KATHY] Always.
838.65	840.75	A:	[KATHY] because I s- oh.
842.24	845.96	A:	[INTER] Is Lynn in the same class you are, or is she a year ahead ((or behind or what))? 
845.80	846.57	A:	[KATHY] See,
846.57	847.68	A:	[KATHY] um,
848.32	849.65	A:	[KATHY] she is u- --
849.65	850.34	A:	[KATHY] if
850.75	852.24	A:	[KATHY] she didn't flunk,
852.24	854.33	A:	[KATHY] she would've graduated this year.
854.55	855.67	A:	[INTER] Yeah.
855.92	857.27	A:	[KATHY] But um,
856.41	858.75	A:	[INTER] Would you have graduated -- next year?
858.77	860.67	A:	[KATHY] I would've graduated next year.
860.67	861.34	A:	[KATHY] Yeah.
861.34	864.77	A:	[KATHY] Because I should be a junior this year, but I'm not.
865.69	866.94	A:	[KATHY] But sh- -- um
866.94	870.53	A:	[KATHY] she is a senior this year because she took um
870.73	872.29	A:	[KATHY] sophomore and junior
872.29	874.27	A:	[KATHY] this year -- last year.
874.27	875.46	A:	[INTER] Two years in one year?
875.46	875.97	A:	[KATHY] Yeah.
875.77	876.72	A:	[INTER] Huh.
876.58	877.89	A:	[KATHY] You can do that around here.
877.74	878.63	A:	[INTER] Uh-huh.
879.00	880.43	A:	[KATHY] And, you know.
880.43	882.44	A:	[INTER] Is she really bright or or is --
881.89	883.75	A:	[KATHY] No. She's the eh --
882.44	883.17	A:	[INTER] Oh.
883.75	889.45	A:	[KATHY] first report card she got all ~Es, you know, and she sat there crying in the lav ((all i- -- all out of breath)).
886.10	886.48	A:	[INTER] Uh-huh.
889.45	893.12	A:	[KATHY] There's one thing about me, I like to talk. I mean I really do.
893.12	896.90	A:	[KATHY] And I'll sit there and talk, and talk, and talk.
897.46	900.73	A:	[KATHY] I can remember so well when I went into that lav.
901.01	905.63	A:	[KATHY] I'm a- -- when I -- you know, in school you can't smoke. 
905.63	907.74	A:	[KATHY] But a- -- we did anyways.
906.65	907.91	A:	[INTER] Then you can't smoke?
907.74	908.65	A:	[KATHY] Can't smoke.
908.78	911.75	A:	[INTER] That's ridiculous, almost everybody smokes (( )). 
910.23	911.50	A:	[KATHY] Yes.
911.50	913.89	A:	[KATHY] And if you get caught smoking you're suspended.
914.96	919.17	A:	[KATHY] So, you know, usually -- I go in the lav and when I'm all upset
919.17	923.41	A:	[KATHY] or in a good mood or crying. 
923.41	927.02	A:	[KATHY] Or you know, I go in the lav and have a cigarette, you know. 
927.02	930.04	A:	[KATHY] And all these girls are in here having a cigarette.
930.04	933.43	A:	[KATHY] And they could tell my mood as soon as I walked in the door.
933.43	935.92	A:	[KATHY] I sp- -- punched the door in and
935.92	942.73	A:	[KATHY] and stamp my feet, you know I'm mad, I'm pissed and they ask me what I'm m- m- m- -- what's wrong, you know. Or if I come in 
942.73	947.14	A:	[KATHY] oh guess what, you know, mm -- they'll -- they know it's something to do with Dan, 
947.14	947.97	A:	[KATHY] you know. 
947.97	949.47	A:	[KATHY] Um
949.47	952.46	A:	[KATHY] but one -- I got suspended four times this year.
952.46	954.06	A:	[INTER] ((personal thing or))
954.22	957.26	A:	[KATHY] Twice -- once for suspicion of smoking.
958.55	962.26	A:	[KATHY] Once for smoking, because Dan -- um 
962.26	963.82	A:	[KATHY] Dan just broke up with me,
963.82	966.92	A:	[KATHY] and he had a p- -- choice of going to a party with me,
967.17	968.70	A:	[KATHY] or with this other girl.
969.48	972.18	A:	[KATHY] And the day um,
972.18	975.35	A:	[KATHY] it was a Thursday. He told me he was going to go with me, you know.
975.35	979.27	A:	[KATHY] Friday he comes in school he says, I'm not going with you, I'm going with Sandy.
980.09	986.55	A:	[KATHY] So I get all mad and and upset and I go in the lav and I'm crying and I'm smoking a cigarette and my gir- -- um
986.55	992.67	A:	[KATHY] The service girl walks in and I'm sitting there still crying she is -- and smoking my cigarette. She is watching me. 
992.67	996.44	A:	[KATHY] I ask her if you want a drag, she goes no thank you I don't smoke, you know.
996.44	1000.29	A:	[KATHY] And I'm sitting there crying, finally I finish my cigarette, you know,
1000.29	1002.97	A:	[KATHY] and I shoot it down on the ground. I go, come on Alice 
1002.97	1004.42	A:	[KATHY] let's go down to the office, you know. 
1004.42	1008.63	A:	[KATHY] I'm walking down to the office. I'm sitting there crying and crying. 
1008.63	1009.11	A:	[KATHY] #Name_suppressed#
1009.11	1015.01	A:	[KATHY] wouldn't want to -- didn't want to talk to me because I sat in his office for about an hour crying.
1015.01	1021.00	A:	[KATHY] And then -- they took me to a guidance counselor and I sat there and cried over it -- for her for another hour. 
1021.00	1021.67	A:	[KATHY] Finally, 
1021.67	1021.99	A:	[KATHY] #Name_suppressed#
1021.99	1027.23	A:	[KATHY] comes in and I get calmed down and she goes -- I go, am I suspended? Sh- yeah, you know.
1027.23	1028.55	A:	[SISTER] Who told on you?
1028.55	1031.43	A:	[KATHY] Um, she sat there watching me. 
1031.32	1032.81	A:	[SISTER] ((Your)) service girl ((told)).
1032.38	1032.82	A:	[KATHY] Yeah.
1032.60	1034.35	A:	[INTER] What is the service girl?
1034.32	1035.25	A:	[KATHY] Um she
1034.97	1038.76	A:	[SISTER] Like a ((*scrubby)). You know what a ((*scrubby)) is? A cleaning lady.
1039.21	1040.33	A:	[INTER] Oh oh.
1039.82	1041.48	A:	[SISTER] Isn't that what a service girl is? 
1041.48	1045.96	A:	[KATHY] Service corps. And service corps. Um, you know 
1045.96	1050.11	A:	[KATHY] kids that think they're cool and they're going to get +another kids in trouble. You know.
1049.91	1051.41	A:	[SISTER] Oh (( ))
1050.11	1053.57	A:	[KATHY] Find out if they're smoking in the lavs and you know.
1053.39	1055.46	A:	[INTER] Are they are they in the me- -- um
1055.82	1060.43	A:	[INTER] Are they chosen by the principal or do they uh -- chose themselves or -- 
1060.28	1064.12	A:	[KATHY] N- no, uh see if you -- if I really wanted to be a service corps,
1064.12	1066.39	A:	[KATHY] I would have to get this piece of paper.
1066.39	1068.88	A:	[KATHY] Have about ten people sign it.
1068.88	1072.39	A:	[KATHY] And out of the ten, there is at least got to be
1072.39	1076.60	A:	[KATHY] um, seven or eight teachers saying, yes 
1076.60	1079.17	A:	[KATHY] I think she would make a good service corps.
1079.36	1080.17	A:	[INTER] Hm.
1080.03	1080.49	A:	[KATHY] And then 
1080.49	1080.91	A:	[KATHY] #Name_suppressed#
1080.91	1084.77	A:	[KATHY] would have to look it over and look over your records and all this shit.
1084.77	1086.24	A:	[KATHY] And you know,
1086.83	1089.36	A:	[KATHY] he'd get in the service corps. But, I wasn't going to do it.
1089.24	1089.87	A:	[INTER] Yeah.
1089.77	1091.77	A:	[KATHY] Because, I couldn't make it. About
1091.77	1095.40	A:	[KATHY] two teachers would say, yeah she would be a good service corps. The rest,
1095.67	1098.28	A:	[KATHY] no, she got too bad of a temper.
1099.66	1105.77	A:	[KATHY] One time I s- s- -- sat there swearing at a teacher. I was so -- she t- -- she talked to Dan.
1106.59	1109.69	A:	[KATHY] Eh she comes over for no reason at all. You know me and --
1108.70	1109.82	A:	[INTER] The teacher did?
1109.69	1110.20	A:	[KATHY] Yeah.
1110.47	1111.20	A:	[KATHY] Me and Dan 
1111.20	1113.51	A:	[KATHY] were in this resource center. We had to be because of 
1113.51	1113.85	A:	[KATHY] #Name_suppressed#
1113.85	1117.10	A:	[KATHY] told us to sit there ((f- till our)) next class, you know.
1117.10	1121.63	A:	[KATHY] So we were sitting there doing nothing. Just sitting there talking, not bothering nobody.
1121.63	1123.51	A:	[KATHY] She comes over and she goes,
1123.51	1124.10	A:	[KATHY] You c- -- 
1124.10	1127.05	A:	[KATHY] gir- -- you -- you know, she is sitting there, you leave, ((you know)).
1127.05	1128.35	A:	[KATHY] I ain't leaving.
1128.35	1133.02	A:	[KATHY] She sitting there bitching about, you know. And I'm sitting there I'm not listening to you, you know.
1133.02	1135.43	A:	[KATHY] She goes, are you listening to me? I go, no.
1135.43	1136.93	A:	[KATHY] I ain't listening.
1137.18	1138.87	A:	[KATHY] She goes, get over here.
1138.87	1140.73	A:	[KATHY] I go, hell with you, you know.
1140.73	1144.30	A:	[KATHY] So I get up and I prance out, you know.
1144.30	1145.75	A:	[KATHY] And -- no,
1145.75	1150.04	A:	[KATHY] a- she goes over and talks to the head teacher of the resource center. 
1150.04	1151.96	A:	[KATHY] She -- he comes over and goes,
1151.96	1157.44	A:	[KATHY] you know you should obey the teachers. And I go, the hell with you, I ain't obeying the teachers. 
1157.44	1163.69	A:	[KATHY] ((Know)) I wasn't doing nothing. So I got mad at him and I left the resource center and I come back.
1163.69	1168.42	A:	[KATHY] Because the t- -- the head teacher comes back and says, you're right and
1168.42	1174.83	A:	[KATHY] the other teacher is wrong, but I can't say that in front of her because, you know, you weren't doing nothing, I know it, you know. 
1174.83	1178.23	A:	[KATHY] (( )) Why don't you come back and sit on the other side of the resource center?
1178.23	1183.84	A:	[KATHY] So I sit we- -- came back and sat on the other side of the resource center and she was talking to Dan.
1184.31	1185.89	A:	[KATHY] So Dan comes over
1184.89	1187.12	A:	[INTER] This is the principal or the teacher? 
1186.98	1187.73	A:	[KATHY] No.
1187.73	1190.27	A:	[KATHY] There's no -- it's just two teachers.
1189.72	1190.35	A:	[INTER] Oh.
1190.47	1192.51	A:	[KATHY] She is talking to Dan, 
1192.51	1193.50	A:	[KATHY] you know, and I go,
1193.50	1194.69	A:	[KATHY] ah -- you know, 
1194.69	1196.84	A:	[KATHY] Dan comes back. ((Go,)) what did she say?
1197.13	1201.21	A:	[KATHY] No- -- oh nothing. I go, what did she say, you know. I was mad anyways.
1201.21	1205.08	A:	[KATHY] Goes, I don't want you to start anything. I go, what did she say? ((She goes,))
1205.08	1211.93	A:	[KATHY] oh, that you're no good for me, and all this stuff. And I go, oh okay, thanks a lot. I go over there and I go,
1211.93	1212.85	A:	[KATHY] look it,
1212.85	1219.93	A:	[KATHY] my opinion y- -- I want you to keep your goddamn mouth shut, and I'm swearing, and I tell her to go up a tree and
1219.93	1222.80	A:	[KATHY] I was using every language in the book, you know I --
1222.80	1225.74	A:	[KATHY] I -- I was so mad at her, you know. 
1225.74	1232.58	A:	[KATHY] So she goes, um, well I'm sorry I -- you know -- young ladies shouldn't do this. I go, goddamn it, I'm sick of you.
1232.58	1239.93	A:	[KATHY] I go don't you ever talk to ((Daniel again)) or you're going to get your ass kicked. If you weren't a teacher I would kick it right now, you know.
1239.93	1243.33	A:	[KATHY] She is sitting there, oh my -- she is scare- -- she was scared to shit, you know.
1243.33	1247.85	A:	[KATHY] And um, I go, yeah, you want to come now? Right now in the lav, you know. 
1248.62	1253.63	A:	[KATHY] Um, I ain't going to leave here (( )) -- she is blubbering on, you know. 
1253.63	1257.45	A:	[KATHY] ((Uh, well)) -- I'll uh, just leave Dan alone, you know. And I walk away. 
1258.02	1259.37	A:	[KATHY] And I go, come on, Dan. 
1259.37	1263.67	A:	[KATHY] So he leaves the resource center with me, we go up -- uh -- we go in up in the cafeteria.
1263.67	1264.34	A:	[KATHY] #Name_suppressed#
1264.34	1265.39	A:	[KATHY] comes up, you know.
1265.39	1267.28	A:	[KATHY] Goes, Kathy, 
1267.28	1269.22	A:	[KATHY] come here. I go, what do you want.
1269.22	1269.81	A:	[KATHY] He goes,
1270.07	1273.72	A:	[KATHY] I heard you um call -- um told Mrs. 
1273.72	1274.08	A:	[KATHY] #Name_suppressed#
1274.08	1274.86	A:	[KATHY] off. And I go, 
1274.86	1276.09	A:	[KATHY] yeah, I did. 
1276.33	1281.34	A:	[KATHY] She goes, why? And I go, she he- -- she had no damn business talking to Dan anyway.
1281.34	1286.17	A:	[KATHY] You know. She goes, oh that's -- I -- meet me down at my office at one thirty. I go,
1286.17	1287.47	A:	[KATHY] I ain't meeting you.
1288.40	1290.33	A:	[KATHY] So you know, Dan is a -- 
1290.33	1293.85	A:	[KATHY] Dan is kind of like a goodie-goodie but, not really, I mean,
1293.85	1298.68	A:	[KATHY] he likes to cause trouble but, when it comes to other people he'll try to get them out of trouble.
1298.68	1299.20	A:	[INTER] Right.
1299.22	1304.38	A:	[KATHY] So he goes, go down and see him. I go, I ain't going to go down and see nobody if I don't want to.
1304.73	1307.40	A:	[KATHY] So he, you know, he talked me into it. 
1307.40	1309.71	A:	[KATHY] So I went down and I saw him.
1309.71	1314.82	A:	[KATHY] Goes um, look it, you want -- she is -- she already -- +you shouldn't do this, so you're +suspended.
1314.82	1317.59	A:	[KATHY] Go, fuck you I ain't coming back to school.
1317.84	1319.31	A:	[KATHY] And I left the school.
1320.16	1324.06	A:	[KATHY] And this is fourth time I got suspended. I wasn't do nothing.
1324.06	1326.67	A:	[KATHY] I got -- uh um I had about
1326.67	1330.28	A:	[KATHY] thir- -- thirty-two more days of stru- -- detention.
1330.19	1331.02	A:	[INTER] Mhm.
1330.82	1333.49	A:	[KATHY] And I get in
1333.49	1336.19	A:	[KATHY] I get in detention a lot.
1336.19	1337.38	A:	[KATHY] And um,
1337.38	1339.67	A:	[KATHY] I just get in structured, you know.
1339.67	1342.29	A:	[KATHY] Sr- s- -- structured is a d- -- um,
1342.29	1344.69	A:	[KATHY] for daytime um,
1345.21	1349.36	A:	[KATHY] time, when you get no more classes, you go in daytime. 
1349.36	1351.40	A:	[KATHY] But, y- -- detention is after school.
1351.88	1357.42	A:	[KATHY] So you know, I go in structured. I sat there nice and s- calm and everything, and I
1357.42	1358.38	A:	[KATHY] um
1358.38	1364.15	A:	[KATHY] you know I -- I did all my work, you know. So I go in detention, I didn't want to go because I knew I was going to blow up.
1364.15	1366.43	A:	[KATHY] So I try to forge a excuse.
1367.17	1372.30	A:	[KATHY] But, now I decided, oh what the hell, might as well. So I went in s-
1372.30	1376.18	A:	[KATHY] detention and I sat there doing nothing now right, I was writing, I love 
1376.18	1376.83	A:	[KATHY] #Name_suppressed#
1376.83	1377.54	A:	[KATHY] on my notebook 
1378.44	1384.75	A:	[KATHY] So this kid comes in, he is five minutes late for -- he -- he is one minute late for detention, you know.
1385.13	1388.58	A:	[KATHY] Comes in and uh sits down. And he goes -- uh -- Mr. 
1388.58	1388.99	A:	[KATHY] #Name_suppressed#
1388.99	1391.15	A:	[KATHY] he is this detention teacher.
1391.15	1393.67	A:	[KATHY] He kicks him out and goes down the office, you know.
1393.67	1397.04	A:	[KATHY] If I got down in the office once more, I was suspended, you know.
1397.52	1398.26	A:	[KATHY] So he goes, 
1398.26	1401.14	A:	[KATHY] Kathy find some work or you're s- you're going down to the office.
1401.14	1405.23	A:	[KATHY] I go, I don't have any I'm sorry. I go- -- I just spent a whole day in detenti- -- 
1405.23	1408.55	A:	[KATHY] Well read a book. I ain't going to read no damn book, you know. 
1408.55	1414.03	A:	[KATHY] And a- -- usually -- uh, in my case they don't give me a second chance, I mean 
1414.03	1421.32	A:	[KATHY] they won't make me write um on a piece of paper or anything. Th- they just send me down to the office. They can't handle me.
1416.71	1417.24	A:	[INTER] Right.
1421.32	1424.15	A:	[KATHY] Because I've been a brat a- -- all my life.
1424.15	1429.30	A:	[KATHY] And so they sent me down to the office. And then this -- um, this kid named Jim, 
1429.30	1432.21	A:	[KATHY] he comes down to the office, too, and I go, what did they kick you out for?
1432.21	1435.46	A:	[KATHY] I put my head on the notebook and they kicked me out.
1435.46	1437.09	A:	[KATHY] You know, so
1437.09	1439.62	A:	[KATHY] we're all down there, doing nothing, and 
1439.62	1439.90	A:	[KATHY] #Name_suppressed#
1439.90	1442.80	A:	[KATHY] comes in and goes, okay what did you three do, you know.
1442.80	1444.88	A:	[KATHY] We told him our sides of the story. 
1444.88	1446.26	A:	[KATHY] Goes, okay wait a minute.
1446.26	1451.91	A:	[KATHY] ((Oh, oh)) now sh- -- now he has got to go ask the teacher what we did wrong and won't believe our side of the story. 
1451.91	1454.24	A:	[KATHY] ((So he goes over and t- --)) +asks the teacher. 
1454.24	1454.93	A:	[KATHY] He said,
1454.93	1459.18	A:	[KATHY] he was -- um, the first kid was fi- -- ten minutes late.
1459.78	1462.91	A:	[KATHY] Um I was running around the room,
1464.11	1468.09	A:	[KATHY] doing nothing, talking out of turn, doing you know,
1468.09	1469.78	A:	[KATHY] disturbing the class.
1469.78	1471.55	A:	[KATHY] So he c- -- kicked me out. 
1471.55	1473.73	A:	[KATHY] And Jim was sleeping.
1474.12	1476.41	A:	[KATHY] He fell asleep on his notebook. 
1476.41	1477.87	A:	[KATHY] Yeah, right.
1477.87	1479.47	A:	[KATHY] So he comes back and goes,
1479.47	1482.25	A:	[KATHY] you all three are suspended ((f- -- from counting now)).
1482.25	1484.50	A:	[KATHY] I go, oh good, you know.
1484.50	1490.12	A:	[KATHY] Right then I wasn't about to swear in front of him, so I go, okay, I got to go to the lav, you know. 
1490.12	1494.79	A:	[KATHY] I went to the lav and I said goddamn that fucking shit head, you know. 
1494.79	1495.24	A:	[KATHY] And 
1495.24	1495.61	A:	[KATHY] #Name_suppressed#
1495.61	1497.52	A:	[KATHY] walks right into the girls lav, you know. 
1497.52	1498.79	A:	[KATHY] He goes um,
1498.79	1499.93	A:	[KATHY] get out Kathy, 
1499.93	1501.41	A:	[KATHY] now, you know. I go, 
1501.41	1504.22	A:	[KATHY] fuck you I ain't getting out. He goes, get out
1504.82	1511.57	A:	[KATHY] Ok- -- you know, I walk out of the building. I go, I ain't never coming back. If my parents call you up and ask you where I am 
1511.57	1519.27	A:	[KATHY] tell them I'm suspended and I'm not coming back, you know. So they go, eh, you better go back. I go, hell with you I ain't coming, you know. 
1519.27	1523.91	A:	[KATHY] I g- you -- I go you aren't ever going to see me back in this damn school, you know. 
1524.31	1525.12	A:	[KATHY] So,
1525.43	1527.85	A:	[KATHY] you know, n- that time my father --
1527.85	1530.66	A:	[KATHY] well th- -- third time I got suspended, my father goes,
1530.66	1534.79	A:	[KATHY] next time you get suspended, I ain't bringing you back in, you know. 
1534.79	1538.17	A:	[KATHY] So, you know. Because I knew he would be pissed.
1538.17	1539.90	A:	[KATHY] So I ran away that night.
1540.28	1541.60	A:	[KATHY] I took off.
1541.60	1549.45	A:	[KATHY] And um, I called my lady and I told her that I would -- wasn't coming home tonight. She goes, yes you are you got to go see grandmother.
1549.45	1554.76	A:	[KATHY] I go, hell with you, I got suspended I'm not going to go see no grandmother. 
1555.48	1557.47	A:	[KATHY] Eh, so um, they
1557.47	1563.14	A:	[KATHY] you know he goes I'll meet you at Carol's at ei- -- five o'clock. I go fuck you I ain't going to be there, you know. 
1563.14	1565.71	A:	[KATHY] ((Goes)) you better be. 
1566.04	1570.03	A:	[KATHY] So they, they were up at Carol's at five o'clock. I wasn't there, you know.
1570.40	1573.62	A:	[KATHY] And they found me about eigh- -- eight thirty.
1573.62	1575.62	A:	[KATHY] In the mall you know.
1575.30	1575.89	A:	[INTER] Yeah.
1576.77	1581.06	A:	[KATHY] I could've killed them. My father -- my father didn't say a word to me for a couple weeks. 
1581.06	1584.18	A:	[KATHY] No back to school, you know, nothing. I didn't do 
1584.18	1586.36	A:	[KATHY] I go uh, dad I -- 
1586.36	1589.34	A:	[KATHY] by the way am I ever going back to school. ((He goes, yeah.))
1589.34	1591.39	A:	[KATHY] No, he comes home one day.
1591.39	1592.58	A:	[KATHY] Goes, Kathy
1592.83	1597.64	A:	[KATHY] get dressed up tomorrow, you're going back to school. I go, oh shit, you know. 
1597.64	1599.36	A:	[KATHY] Because I didn't want to see ((uh)) --
1599.21	1601.40	A:	[INTER] Well, what would you do if you didn't go back to school?
1601.24	1602.16	A:	[KATHY] I would quit.
1602.22	1602.75	A:	[INTER] Uh-huh.
1602.72	1603.65	A:	[KATHY] I -- I mean,
1604.27	1610.32	A:	[KATHY] well, you know, the -- I could have a leave of suspension until I'm sixteen is
1607.74	1608.26	A:	[INTER] Right.
1610.25	1610.94	A:	[INTER] Right.
1610.86	1612.08	A:	[KATHY] now and s- -- 
1612.08	1613.31	A:	[KATHY] quit, you know. 
1612.71	1614.92	A:	[INTER] And then you don't have to go back (( )). Right.
1613.62	1614.41	A:	[KATHY] Right.
1614.97	1619.00	A:	[KATHY] Mm, this September, if I don't want to go back to school, I'm not going to.
1619.12	1620.54	A:	[INTER] Do you think you will or not?
1620.32	1621.37	A:	[KATHY] I will.
1622.40	1624.34	A:	[KATHY] But when it goes -- gets rough,
1625.15	1627.18	A:	[KATHY] out I go, I ain't staying. 
1626.02	1628.29	A:	[INTER] Why i- -- why is everybody down on you?
1628.29	1630.54	A:	[INTER] (( )) It really sounds like that.
1628.68	1629.66	A:	[KATHY] Well, s-
1630.32	1632.17	A:	[KATHY] Well see, I'm a brat.
1633.27	1635.80	A:	[KATHY] And I do disturb classes.
1635.80	1638.26	A:	[KATHY] I cannot sit in a place,
1638.79	1642.06	A:	[KATHY] I cannot sit in a place more than ten minutes,
1642.50	1643.38	A:	[KATHY] without
1643.38	1644.51	A:	[KATHY] getting up,
1645.29	1646.83	A:	[KATHY] joking around,
1646.83	1649.83	A:	[KATHY] running around, or leaving the room and having a cigarette.
1649.86	1650.33	A:	[INTER] Yeah.
1650.36	1654.11	A:	[KATHY] You know, because it's -- it's always been that way. I mean 
1654.68	1657.44	A:	[INTER] Are you bored or just that,
1654.75	1655.82	A:	[KATHY] ((M- -- my f- --))
1656.59	1659.28	A:	[KATHY] It -- it's boring and, you know, my 
1659.28	1661.62	A:	[KATHY] ((well)) see my parents never really,
1661.62	1664.80	A:	[KATHY] you know, um, took an eye to me, you know. 
1664.54	1665.14	A:	[INTER] Mhm.
1664.80	1667.68	A:	[KATHY] And, eh usually I like to
1668.13	1669.56	A:	[INTER] Oh is it mostly Nancy
1669.56	1671.36	A:	[INTER] that they were worried about?
1671.16	1671.84	A:	[KATHY] Yeah.
1671.84	1672.88	A:	[KATHY] You know, Nancy 
1672.88	1677.95	A:	[KATHY] is (( )) ((straightest)), you know. When I come home with ~Fs and s- um, you know, ~Ds.
1677.95	1683.72	A:	[KATHY] ((They don't, oh)) -- try to do better next time, (( )). Oh yeah, mom. You know, sure. They won't ground me well --
1683.72	1686.45	A:	[KATHY] you know I haven't got hitten since I was five.
1686.45	1689.14	A:	[KATHY] Really sat down and got spanked.
1689.14	1690.50	A:	[KATHY] Because I won't do it.
1691.22	1692.45	A:	[KATHY] Because um.
1692.90	1697.32	A:	[KATHY] I am a spoiled brat. I'm very spoiled. Very, very, spoiled.
1694.42	1694.88	A:	[INTER] Mhm.
1697.67	1699.02	A:	[KATHY] And, you know,
1699.39	1700.21	A:	[KATHY] um -- 
1700.21	1703.10	A:	[KATHY] And my parents aren't going to help me get unspoiled.
1703.10	1705.27	A:	[KATHY] That's why I think Ken is a very
1705.27	1706.68	A:	[KATHY] good guy for me.
1706.65	1707.38	A:	[INTER] Mhm.
1707.21	1709.75	A:	[KATHY] Because -- he'll teach me
1709.75	1712.49	A:	[KATHY] what's right and what's wrong for a girl.
1710.96	1711.50	A:	[INTER] Right.
1712.44	1712.96	A:	[INTER] Uh-huh.
1712.49	1714.09	A:	[KATHY] Mean, I never been t- --
1714.09	1718.26	A:	[KATHY] I hate to repeat this but, I never been tree- -- treated mm mm 
1717.86	1718.43	A:	[INTER] Yeah.
1718.26	1719.92	A:	[KATHY] been treated like a girl. 
1719.69	1723.79	A:	[INTER] Yeah, I know, I wasn't very much either. I was always one of the guys, with my friends. 
1721.20	1722.17	A:	[KATHY] You know, it k- --
1722.56	1723.27	A:	[KATHY] Yeah.
1723.27	1724.85	A:	[KATHY] One of the guys, you know. 
1724.85	1727.34	A:	[KATHY] Because, I don't -- I like guys better than girls.
1727.37	1727.86	A:	[INTER] Mhm.
1727.70	1729.05	A:	[KATHY] Guys can be --
1729.92	1735.14	A:	[KATHY] guys are more nicer to girls. If a -- if a girl wore an outfit, you know. 
1735.14	1738.55	A:	[KATHY] All the girls, oh that's very pretty. I like it. 
1738.20	1738.76	A:	[INTER] Mhm.
1738.90	1742.08	A:	[KATHY] Boy I think it stinks. Why wouldn't she take it off? 
1740.39	1740.94	A:	[INTER] Yeah.
1742.08	1743.44	A:	[KATHY] But guys will go, 
1743.44	1747.27	A:	[KATHY] I hate it. Don't ev- -- you know, they're really truthful about it.
1743.86	1745.49	A:	[INTER] Yeah, they're (( )) yeah.
1747.27	1752.89	A:	[KATHY] You know, it might hurt your feelings then but, it's a lot better to be right off, you know.
1752.38	1752.79	A:	[INTER] Mhm.
1753.26	1755.26	A:	[INTER] No, I've always felt that way.
1755.04	1757.92	A:	[KATHY] So, you know, I -- I like to hang around with guys. 
1757.92	1762.99	A:	[KATHY] ((You know)) so I don't really like to be treated like a girl if I'm around guys, you know. 
1763.39	1764.25	A:	[KATHY] Because
1764.25	1767.03	A:	[KATHY] if they have to treat me like a girl, what's the sense of 
1767.03	1769.33	A:	[KATHY] hanging around with guys, you know.
1768.80	1769.34	A:	[INTER] Right.
1769.33	1773.92	A:	[KATHY] I like to -- I like to do weird things. Real weir- -- weird, you know.
1773.92	1775.37	A:	[KATHY] I -- I like to, 
1775.37	1778.01	A:	[KATHY] um, I love to drive around in a car 
1778.01	1780.86	A:	[KATHY] I like to +hang -- hang my head on a car.
1780.86	1785.26	A:	[KATHY] And sometimes, I get in my moods and I -- I'll stare at something and
1785.26	1787.08	A:	[KATHY] just keep staring at it,
1787.08	1790.14	A:	[KATHY] until somebody knocks me out of my stare, you know.
1790.77	1792.94	A:	[KATHY] But, I -- you know,
1792.94	1794.13	A:	[KATHY] I'm very i- -- 
1794.13	1796.29	A:	[KATHY] Ken noticed it, too, because
1796.57	1797.48	A:	[KATHY] Friday
1797.48	1800.40	A:	[KATHY] I -- I was in my staring mood Friday night.
1800.40	1801.64	A:	[KATHY] Goes, what's wrong Kathy? 
1801.64	1802.81	A:	[KATHY] Oh nothing, Da(n) -- 
1802.81	1803.17	A:	[KATHY] Ken, 
1803.17	1804.12	A:	[KATHY] nothing, you know.
1804.12	1808.29	A:	[KATHY] And there was nothing wrong, I was just in my mood to stare, you know.
1807.75	1808.19	A:	[INTER] Mhm.
1808.29	1811.51	A:	[KATHY] And he thought it was wrong. And, you know, he sat there
1811.51	1814.69	A:	[KATHY] bugging me about it and I got mad at him ((you know)).
1815.43	1817.35	A:	[INTER] Probably just because he cares about you. 
1817.05	1817.76	A:	[KATHY] Yeah.
1819.54	1823.44	A:	[KATHY] See he had the same problem as me, with another girl.
1823.97	1827.75	A:	[KATHY] I mean, h- -- um he had a girl treat ((her)) like shit and tr-
1826.87	1829.13	A:	[INTER] Same problem you had with Dan. Yeah.
1827.89	1828.61	A:	[KATHY] Yeah.
1829.10	1830.60	A:	[KATHY] He -- he had a girl
1829.94	1830.87	A:	[INTER] ((Here we go again.))
1832.28	1835.05	A:	[KATHY] He had a girl +treat him like shit and
1835.05	1839.91	A:	[KATHY] you know, left him anytime he -- she wanted to and came back anytime
1839.91	1841.34	A:	[KATHY] he wanted to, you know.
1841.08	1843.59	A:	[INTER] Like did -- did Dan go out with other girls like this?
1843.41	1844.02	A:	[KATHY] Yeah.
1845.34	1846.49	A:	[KATHY] See um,
1847.42	1848.33	A:	[KATHY] Dan
1848.81	1852.54	A:	[KATHY] was really never truthful from -- with me, you know.
1852.54	1855.48	A:	[KATHY] He would say, oh I never cheated on you, Kath, 
1855.48	1856.95	A:	[KATHY] I never cheated on you. 
1856.95	1858.88	A:	[KATHY] But, I find out -- ((you know)).
1858.88	1863.13	A:	[KATHY] It's a way with me. I -- I can find out what I really want to know.
1863.13	1865.25	A:	[KATHY] Because if they don't tell me,
1866.38	1872.14	A:	[KATHY] you know, too bad for them. They'd get their ass kicked. And shi- -- you know, usually they talk to me.
1872.73	1876.27	A:	[KATHY] And that's why l- lots of people don't like to get on the bad side of me.
1876.60	1877.99	A:	[KATHY] Lots of people, because 
1877.99	1880.11	A:	[KATHY] they're afraid if they do,
1881.42	1884.91	A:	[KATHY] I got a very bad temper, very bad and um
1886.22	1889.30	A:	[KATHY] it's very bad when I get in a very bad mood
1889.50	1891.18	A:	[KATHY] Because, one time I told off Mrs. 
1891.18	1891.50	A:	[KATHY] #Name_suppressed#
1891.50	1892.80	A:	[KATHY] and that was bad news. 
1893.22	1896.93	A:	[KATHY] But I'm not -- I won't -- I will never take shit from nobody.
1897.37	1900.74	A:	[KATHY] I'll tell off my parents if they bitch at me. I'll bitch right back.
1900.74	1902.08	A:	[KATHY] And I'll swear at them.
1902.08	1904.20	A:	[KATHY] And they'll swear right back at me.
1905.36	1908.30	A:	[KATHY] And when they start to hit me, I'll -- take off.
1908.30	1909.51	A:	[KATHY] And I'll run.
1909.80	1912.10	A:	[KATHY] I'm not going to stand around and get slagged.
1917.02	1919.79	A:	[KATHY] See my father -- doesn't like me to smoke.
1919.79	1921.04	A:	[INTER] Mhm. Oh really?
1920.36	1922.07	A:	[KATHY] In f- -- in front of him.
1921.77	1922.33	A:	[INTER] Oh.
1922.18	1924.51	A:	[KATHY] But eh -- my mother, she doesn't mind. 
1924.69	1927.33	A:	[KATHY] Because, I think sh- -- when she was young, you know.
1927.73	1928.41	A:	[INTER] Yeah.
1928.47	1930.58	A:	[KATHY] She used to smoke and,
1930.84	1932.51	A:	[INTER] Yeah I think so, too.
1933.77	1935.44	A:	[KATHY] but my father never did.
1936.69	1937.75	A:	[KATHY] Doesn't want to.
1940.11	1941.84	A:	[KATHY] I'm a spoiled brat.
1941.52	1946.21	A:	[INTER] Now I don't know what like -- what do you mean by spoiled. Like it doesn't sound like you're spoiled to me. 
1946.10	1948.54	A:	[KATHY] See if I don't get my way,
1949.13	1951.20	A:	[KATHY] well sometimes I can be. 
1951.20	1955.38	A:	[KATHY] I can be a real sp- brat, when I really wa- -- put my mind to it.
1955.70	1958.06	A:	[KATHY] Because this -- you know, like Dan.
1958.33	1961.72	A:	[KATHY] I don't know why but I got this habit of biting
1961.91	1965.81	A:	[KATHY] people. Boys, especially. Boyfriends.
1965.81	1970.29	A:	[KATHY] And I'll bite them until they tell me what they want -- I want to know.
1970.29	1972.70	A:	[KATHY] And it hurts when I bite.
1972.70	1974.63	A:	[KATHY] Because, I gave Dan
1974.94	1975.84	A:	[KATHY] uh
1975.84	1978.60	A:	[KATHY] it was a scar. He has still got it
1978.92	1980.23	A:	[KATHY] since we broke up.
1981.56	1984.19	A:	[KATHY] We bro- -- um I gave it to him in 
1984.19	1986.96	A:	[KATHY] March, January, February, March.
1987.84	1990.77	A:	[KATHY] About February, and he has still got it.
1990.86	1994.17	A:	[KATHY] He can still -- he g- look at that, I got that from Kathy, 
1994.17	1996.77	A:	[KATHY] you know about a couple of months -- about five months ago.
1997.00	1998.51	A:	[KATHY] And, you know, I'll -- 
1998.51	2002.10	A:	[KATHY] I'll really dig my teeth into them, if they get me mad enough.
2002.52	2006.58	A:	[KATHY] And that's one thing I don't like now is because I bite Ken.
2006.58	2008.32	A:	[KATHY] But, I don't bite him hard.
2008.32	2010.08	A:	[KATHY] I just bite him a little, you know. 
2010.08	2013.92	A:	[KATHY] I y- -- it's just a habit of me biting.
2013.92	2020.32	A:	[KATHY] If I really like a g- -- you know, if I really like a guy I'll bite him. I ((won't)) you know,
2020.32	2021.79	A:	[KATHY] Weird.
2021.38	2023.29	A:	[INTER] I can see you running around biting people.
2025.74	2028.40	A:	[KATHY] No I -- um usually
2028.40	2032.77	A:	[KATHY] See since I was little I've been getting my own way. I mean, you know, 
2032.77	2039.85	A:	[KATHY] I -- I c- -- I'm really free. I mean, in this house I can go any place I want to. Do anything I want to.
2040.21	2043.82	A:	[KATHY] And be in at anytime I want to, you know. Th- s- -- well,
2043.82	2050.16	A:	[KATHY] you know they got a little +restriction. Be in by one. Be in by two, you know, something ((little)) like that. But, you know, 
2050.35	2051.63	A:	[KATHY] if I'm late
2051.63	2053.55	A:	[KATHY] tell them a dumb reason.
2052.76	2057.69	A:	[INTER] Does Nancy have uh all th- uh -- times to be in and stuff like that? Or are they more strict with her?
2057.81	2059.10	A:	[KATHY] Um.
2059.43	2060.95	A:	[KATHY] Well sh-
2060.95	2063.43	A:	[KATHY] see I li- -- I'll, you know
2063.43	2067.46	A:	[KATHY] one th- -- my fa- -- If it -- was up to my father, 
2067.46	2071.06	A:	[KATHY] we would be out all the time. I mean, you know, he wouldn't
2071.06	2072.76	A:	[KATHY] know where we were.
2072.76	2074.63	A:	[KATHY] He wouldn't care where we were. 
2074.63	2077.13	A:	[KATHY] But, it's my mother that's a bitch, and -- 
2077.13	2081.20	A:	[KATHY] Where are you? When you coming home? How you getting home? Where y- -- How you getting there? 
2081.20	2085.61	A:	[KATHY] Who you going to be? What -- what you going to do all night? You know, and you know.
2082.55	2082.94	A:	[INTER] Mhm.
2085.44	2089.19	A:	[INTER] Yeah. ((You're)) familiar with that huh (( ))?
2085.78	2086.69	A:	[KATHY] So,
2090.76	2091.59	A:	[KATHY] ((That -- ))
2091.59	2092.34	A:	[KATHY] You know, 
2092.34	2097.36	A:	[KATHY] I don't really ca- -- I like to go. I l- -- I -- I cannot sit home, 
2097.36	2101.04	A:	[KATHY] and do nothing all day. That's what I did all day today.
2101.04	2104.22	A:	[KATHY] That's what I did all day yesterday because, you know 
2104.22	2105.47	A:	[KATHY] Ken was sick and
2105.76	2108.15	A:	[KATHY] and I was supposed to have a party ((over)) for Lynn 
2108.15	2111.51	A:	[KATHY] and today I have company so. But tomorrow
2111.89	2112.84	A:	[KATHY] Um
2112.84	2115.74	A:	[KATHY] I don't know. I'll probably sit home and d- -- you know.
2115.74	2120.07	A:	[KATHY] Because it's -- I'm supposed to be baby-sitting, but tomorrow night I'll see Ken.
2119.74	2120.51	A:	[INTER] Mhm.
2120.17	2126.06	A:	[KATHY] And Ken probably will come over tomorrow. Have supper over. See I can have any kids over I want.
2126.54	2128.08	A:	[KATHY] Anytime I want.
2127.82	2128.36	A:	[INTER] That's nice.
2128.08	2133.16	A:	[KATHY] As long as, you know, they don't take my father's booze. That's one thing my father --
2133.53	2134.36	A:	[KATHY] See,
2134.59	2140.24	A:	[KATHY] last time I had a party, I said, father, let's clear out the booze and bring it downstairs.
2140.24	2142.94	A:	[KATHY] ((He ch- --)) he said, why, can't you trust them?
2143.57	2145.38	A:	[KATHY] I go, father, um
2145.38	2150.25	A:	[KATHY] if they see a bar and it's full with liquor, I'm sure they aren't going to take any, you know.
2150.33	2151.13	A:	[INTER] Right.
2150.88	2157.00	A:	[KATHY] So, they got pissed at me for that, and now they won't -- they can't trust anybody around here ((anymore)).
2156.54	2159.59	A:	[INTER] That's true. I ((d- -- I don't -- the-)) -- they wouldn't do it either.
2157.21	2158.05	A:	[KATHY] Yeah.
2159.59	2160.52	A:	[INTER] (( )) 
2161.76	2164.64	A:	[KATHY] If you want something to keep, you got to hide it. 
2166.23	2171.93	A:	[KATHY] Because if -- you know, if they offered me -- you know, if I was at somebody else's house and they offered me -- 
2171.93	2175.97	A:	[KATHY] uh -- you know, I see their whiskey cabinet, I'm sure I'm going to take some.
2175.97	2179.33	A:	[KATHY] It's right there in front of me, I'm going -- of course, you know. 
2179.18	2179.89	A:	[INTER] Yeah.
2180.21	2181.37	A:	[KATHY] So, you know.
2181.71	2184.19	A:	[INTER] Nancy's not wild at all though.
2183.51	2186.64	A:	[KATHY] No s- -- no she isn't. I mean, she's rather 
2188.20	2189.39	A:	[KATHY] you know,
2189.57	2190.27	A:	[INTER] Straight.
2190.18	2190.91	A:	[KATHY] Yeah.
2191.28	2192.80	A:	[KATHY] I think y- uh --
2193.13	2195.15	A:	[KATHY] j- -- her first boyfriend
2195.67	2197.73	A:	[KATHY] that I can -- recall,
2198.24	2200.28	A:	[KATHY] was when she was in
2200.28	2203.35	A:	[KATHY] tenth grade. I -- no, maybe
2204.03	2205.90	A:	[KATHY] last year, yeah.
2205.90	2206.94	A:	[KATHY] ((Jacker.))
2207.95	2209.84	A:	[KATHY] When she was in eleventh.
2209.84	2211.83	A:	[KATHY] And she h- -- she doesn't --
2211.83	2216.05	A:	[KATHY] sh- -- she'll have fun with guys but, she r- -- you know, she'd rather
2216.05	2218.08	A:	[KATHY] not go out with anybody.
2218.08	2219.33	A:	[KATHY] But like me,
2219.33	2221.13	A:	[KATHY] I love guys. I mean, 
2221.13	2224.30	A:	[KATHY] I rather b- -- I -- I like to be tied down.
2224.52	2227.11	A:	[KATHY] Because, I've been tied down since I was eleven. 
2227.88	2228.54	A:	[KATHY] and
2227.91	2229.07	A:	[INTER] With a guy, you mean.
2228.66	2229.68	A:	[KATHY] With a guy.
2229.68	2232.77	A:	[KATHY] ((Uh an- s- --)) you know, and if I wasn't tied down,
2232.77	2235.71	A:	[KATHY] I would get tied down in less than a month, you know. 
2235.71	2237.33	A:	[KATHY] Because, I, you know, 
2237.33	2238.52	A:	[KATHY] I like to
2238.52	2240.14	A:	[KATHY] mm -- be told
2240.60	2241.98	A:	[KATHY] what to do,
2241.98	2245.02	A:	[KATHY] what not to do, where to go, and where not to go.
2244.35	2246.49	A:	[INTER] Did Dan tell you stuff to do and stuff like ((that))?
2245.97	2246.83	A:	[KATHY] Yes.
2247.29	2247.98	A:	[KATHY] You know,
2247.98	2249.02	A:	[KATHY] um
2249.02	2250.76	A:	[KATHY] but, see c- -- with Ken,
2250.76	2252.66	A:	[KATHY] he won't tell me what to do
2252.66	2257.18	A:	[KATHY] and what not to do. Because, h- -- he doesn't -- he thinks it um
2257.18	2257.96	A:	[KATHY] a g-
2257.96	2261.48	A:	[KATHY] a girl should be treated like a girl and not an animal.
2262.73	2263.75	A:	[INTER] All right.
2263.54	2264.45	A:	[KATHY] You know.
2264.90	2265.46	A:	[INTER] Yeah.
2265.12	2267.06	A:	[KATHY] It's a uh -- that's a
2266.25	2268.06	A:	[INTER] Sounds fine to me.
2267.06	2271.54	A:	[KATHY] That's uh -- that's a weird thing because, I -- you know -- um I'm
2271.54	2275.27	A:	[KATHY] I'm used to be telling, you going to the coffee house tonight.
2275.57	2276.70	A:	[KATHY] Okay.
2276.70	2280.67	A:	[KATHY] You're going to be over my house at this certain time. Okay.
2280.98	2284.06	A:	[KATHY] I'm not coming over your house. Okay, you know.
2284.06	2288.03	A:	[KATHY] And I take it. I -- I -- I've been treated like shit since I was eleven.
2288.02	2288.64	A:	[INTER] Mhm.
2288.33	2289.86	A:	[KATHY] Put it that way, you know. 
2290.54	2292.03	A:	[KATHY] Because I --
2292.03	2293.09	A:	[KATHY] when I -- 
2293.09	2294.65	A:	[KATHY] go out with a guy
2294.81	2295.84	A:	[KATHY] I think,
2295.84	2299.23	A:	[KATHY] if I -- if I was a guy I would be a lot
2299.23	2300.08	A:	[KATHY] better
2300.08	2302.98	A:	[KATHY] because, it would be a lot easier for me. Because 
2303.21	2304.29	A:	[KATHY] I think
2304.88	2307.71	A:	[KATHY] a guy should go over the girl's house.
2307.86	2310.39	A:	[KATHY] You know, instead of the girl going over the guy's house. 
2308.04	2309.48	A:	[INTER] Yeah, I think --
2309.48	2310.47	A:	[INTER] Yeah.
2310.39	2312.04	A:	[KATHY] But, I'll still do it.
2311.78	2312.21	A:	[INTER] Yeah.
2312.04	2313.35	A:	[KATHY] I love to walk.
2313.24	2313.95	A:	[INTER] Uh-huh.
2313.74	2316.45	A:	[KATHY] Especially, when it's summer and it's not too hot.
2316.45	2321.94	A:	[KATHY] Like now. I lo- -- I would love to go out and take a hike, and just walk eh.
2321.94	2327.71	A:	[KATHY] As far as I want to, and then walk back, you know. Enjoy myself, have a cigarette, have a radio, you know. 
2324.02	2324.61	A:	[INTER] Yeah.
2328.76	2330.11	A:	[KATHY] That's how I am.
2330.37	2331.86	A:	[KATHY] I mean, I don't like to 
2332.58	2338.14	A:	[KATHY] be constantly with a guy, all the time, you know. No free time at all.
2337.89	2338.49	A:	[INTER] Mhm.
2338.14	2341.01	A:	[KATHY] But, I like to be told 
2341.01	2342.27	A:	[KATHY] where to go,
2342.27	2344.76	A:	[KATHY] and who n- -- who to be with, you know. 
2344.76	2347.41	A:	[KATHY] See, my parents never gave me +restrictions.
2346.67	2347.58	A:	[INTER] Mhm.
2347.41	2348.19	A:	[KATHY] Go out.
2348.19	2350.79	A:	[KATHY] Have fun. Do what you want, you know.
2350.79	2353.58	A:	[KATHY] Be home -- this time. Get a ride home, you know. 
2353.58	2356.20	A:	[KATHY] I never got a ride home. When my p- --
2356.20	2358.24	A:	[KATHY] uh, I -- I love to walk.
2358.18	2361.02	A:	[INTER] You been -- You've been walking since ((you were young, all right)).
2358.24	2359.38	A:	[KATHY] ((Yeah uh -- I)) know.
2360.71	2363.11	A:	[KATHY] I -- you know I walks until.
2363.89	2365.43	A:	[KATHY] N- -- like um,
2366.24	2373.34	A:	[KATHY] let's say um, -- uh th- -- since this week. I've been walking every place I go. My f- -- my mother thinks I got a ride home ev- every night.
2373.34	2375.86	A:	[KATHY] Hell with her. I never got a ride home. 
2375.86	2376.81	A:	[KATHY] Uh -- I --
2376.81	2383.51	A:	[KATHY] I rather walk than have a ride. I mean, it's a lot slower and you can look at the scenery. But the one thing I don't like
2383.51	2384.93	A:	[KATHY] nowadays is --
2384.93	2388.21	A:	[KATHY] Um you know, you hear so much things about
2388.21	2393.69	A:	[KATHY] raping ga- -- girls and all this stuff. I don't, you know, I don't really like to walk at dark, 
2393.69	2394.81	A:	[KATHY] nighttime but,
2393.96	2394.44	A:	[INTER] Yeah.
2394.81	2396.68	A:	[KATHY] I'll do it anyways. I mean,
2396.68	2398.97	A:	[KATHY] I think it's beautiful when it's dark.
2400.15	2402.57	A:	[KATHY] That's how I am, I -- I'll sit there --
2402.57	2405.24	A:	[KATHY] One night I couldn't sleep at all,
2405.24	2408.69	A:	[KATHY] and I sat -- I went outside and I sat there.
2408.69	2412.71	A:	[KATHY] And I stared at ou- -- out at the stars and I just stared and stared.
2413.10	2415.41	A:	[KATHY] Eh, you know, that's how I am.
2414.62	2416.31	A:	[INTER] (( )) Are you thinking when you stare?
2416.07	2418.84	A:	[KATHY] Yeah -- no, well -- not too much. 
2418.84	2423.05	A:	[KATHY] I just stare. I mean, I really don't know what I'm thinking about. I'm j-
2423.44	2427.56	A:	[KATHY] It's a pretty doorknob, you know. Something like that, you know. 
2428.89	2433.20	A:	[INTER] Hey I -- I have a sort of silly question, like, um,
2433.20	2435.38	A:	[INTER] your mother says that you can't read.
2435.40	2436.13	A:	[KATHY] I can't.
2436.05	2438.14	A:	[INTER] I -- uh why can't you read. I can't believe that -- that.
2437.97	2440.27	A:	[KATHY] I cannot read at all. I mean,
2440.27	2444.62	A:	[KATHY] I -- I haven't been able to really sit down and --
2444.62	2448.16	A:	[INTER] Is it just because you -- do you don't want to take the time or because you just really can't read?
2447.93	2449.45	A:	[KATHY] I really can't read.
2449.33	2450.47	A:	[INTER] That's really neat.
2450.47	2452.68	A:	[INTER] It's really fantastic (( )).
2450.51	2451.56	A:	[KATHY] ((I mean uh -- ))
2453.73	2457.12	A:	[KATHY] Th- that's why I hate to put on forty-fives.
2458.01	2459.14	A:	[KATHY] Because,
2460.22	2465.32	A:	[KATHY] you better b- -- be going. I go, huh, I cannot s- eh -- oh.
2465.32	2469.59	A:	[KATHY] Huh uh, which sides are better, you know. That's why I told you to put on those albums.
2466.94	2467.57	A:	[INTER] Right.
2467.82	2470.43	A:	[INTER] Oh I se- -- No I didn't realize that.
2470.33	2474.04	A:	[KATHY] Cause I cannot r- -- I -- uh you know I'll just put any old side on. 
2473.83	2474.45	A:	[INTER] Right.
2474.04	2476.22	A:	[KATHY] ((You know)) I don't know which one is the best, you know.
2475.60	2476.16	A:	[INTER] Right.
2476.22	2479.68	A:	[KATHY] Put on the best side, you know. ((Well)), you know, you put on the best side.
2479.67	2485.06	A:	[INTER] What is it -- do do -- is it because of your eyes? Does something ((happen when you look at it))? Or you just can't read?
2483.64	2484.36	A:	[KATHY] No.
2484.73	2486.18	A:	[KATHY] I just can't read.
2486.14	2486.71	A:	[INTER] Huh.
2486.45	2488.17	A:	[KATHY] I mean, um
2488.17	2493.65	A:	[KATHY] since I -- when I was in fifth -- fourth grade, you know, I had a special tutor and -- 
2493.65	2498.93	A:	[KATHY] you know, she go, oh you're improving, you're great. You're -- you know, you're getting good, you know. 
2498.93	2500.82	A:	[KATHY] And I got in sixth gra- -- f-
2500.82	2501.69	A:	[KATHY] fifth grade.
2501.69	2503.59	A:	[KATHY] You're improving since -- 
2503.59	2505.14	A:	[KATHY] very well, you know. 
2505.14	2510.04	A:	[KATHY] And then I got in sixth. You're great, you're improving so much, you know.
2510.04	2512.90	A:	[KATHY] Nothing, you know. I -- I still can't read. I'm
2512.90	2514.56	A:	[KATHY] I'm a sixth grade reader.
2514.49	2515.08	A:	[INTER] Uh-huh.
2514.87	2517.99	A:	[KATHY] and I'm -- I'm still supposed to be in eleventh grade. 
2517.70	2518.59	A:	[INTER] Uh-huh.
2518.77	2520.32	A:	[KATHY] Eh, like this.
2520.51	2524.05	A:	[KATHY] Eh l- -- like the card um, what's his name gave me.
2523.49	2524.16	A:	[INTER] Yeah.
2524.46	2526.24	A:	[KATHY] I looked at it.
2526.24	2528.59	A:	[KATHY] I pretended like I read it.
2527.47	2528.74	A:	[INTER] ((Oh you)) (( )) 
2528.59	2533.26	A:	[KATHY] I opened it up, I pretended I read it. And I read, I love -- eh -- love Ken, 
2533.26	2533.66	A:	[KATHY] you know.
2533.66	2534.50	A:	[KATHY] Okay.
2534.50	2535.49	A:	[KATHY] (( ))
2535.49	2536.26	A:	[KATHY] I --
2536.26	2538.63	A:	[KATHY] I was so happy, you know. I brang it in. I -- 
2537.27	2537.79	A:	[INTER] Right. 
2538.63	2545.25	A:	[KATHY] oh isn't it pretty, you know. Sh- -- he started reading out -- read it out loud more, you know. So he read the whole thing out loud, you know ((but)). 
2545.25	2548.85	A:	[KATHY] I don't like to really tell people I can't read, but I can't.
2548.85	2551.23	A:	[KATHY] That's why I -- I hate books.
2551.23	2555.06	A:	[KATHY] I can't stand books, because I'll sit there and ((listen)) -- look at the pictures.
2556.28	2558.97	A:	[KATHY] And it -- it's embarrassing for me. I mean,
2558.90	2559.74	A:	[INTER] It is?
2559.55	2561.12	A:	[KATHY] yes. I mean,
2561.37	2562.23	A:	[KATHY] you know, 
2562.23	2566.65	A:	[KATHY] eh knowing that I cannot read. That word ((that's o- -- what's a f- --))
2566.65	2568.16	A:	[KATHY] What's the cover of that book?
2568.37	2569.43	A:	[INTER] Christie.
2569.36	2570.39	A:	[KATHY] Oh mm
2570.39	2573.70	A:	[KATHY] That's why I got loo- s- -- s- -- see people.
2573.70	2577.11	A:	[KATHY] You know, I ask my mother which movie is best, you know. 
2577.11	2580.25	A:	[KATHY] Because, I cannot read the name of the picture.
2581.36	2584.89	A:	[KATHY] I never could. Except, you know, a little -- well
2584.89	2588.00	A:	[KATHY] I get s- -- I stumble on little words
2588.00	2592.54	A:	[KATHY] and big words. M- you know, I can read the sometimes, and
2592.54	2598.60	A:	[KATHY] of sometimes. But sometimes I can't. Is it depends on what moods I'm in. I -- you know.
2597.16	2597.97	A:	[INTER] Right.
2599.09	2600.17	A:	[KATHY] Weird.
2600.17	2602.60	A:	[INTER] Oh I think it ((sounds)) great.
2602.60	2603.13	A:	[KATHY] What?
2602.60	2604.90	A:	[INTER] ((I think of)) all that information you can't get. 
2605.58	2606.73	A:	[KATHY] Oh, great.
2606.09	2609.46	A:	[INTER] ((You never)) know anything (( )) ((I think)) that's really ((quite)) (( )).
2608.02	2614.22	A:	[KATHY] Th- that's why I like math the best because, I can eh -- I c- -- you know, I can -- I know the problem. 
2614.22	2616.27	A:	[KATHY] But, when it came to um,
2616.27	2618.32	A:	[KATHY] reading the problems and
2618.32	2621.52	A:	[KATHY] writing down what it said, you know, I sat there.
2621.52	2626.85	A:	[KATHY] Okay, I flunked this marking period, and I did, because I couldn't read it, you know. 
2625.94	2628.59	A:	[INTER] Do people know that's why that you're doing badly?
2628.39	2630.33	A:	[KATHY] No, I won't tell them.
2628.59	2630.22	A:	[INTER] (( ))
2630.22	2630.59	A:	[INTER] Right.
2630.77	2632.39	A:	[KATHY] And, you know, um
2632.39	2634.63	A:	[KATHY] when I took my math final,
2635.09	2636.61	A:	[KATHY] the teacher comes over goes, 
2636.61	2641.45	A:	[KATHY] you want any help on reading it? Oh n- -- no thanks. Because I feel embarrassed, because everybody is around
2640.14	2640.84	A:	[INTER] Yeah.
2641.45	2643.70	A:	[KATHY] I'm sure she is -- oh not, you know.
2643.70	2644.95	A:	[KATHY] And same
2644.10	2645.72	A:	[INTER] But if she'd read it you could have done it.
2645.30	2648.47	A:	[KATHY] Yeah, I could've done it. And same with my science test.
2648.83	2652.14	A:	[KATHY] And I hate social studies because, because they give you a book. Here.
2651.88	2653.07	A:	[INTER] ((Right.))
2653.03	2654.59	A:	[KATHY] And English.
2654.59	2657.20	A:	[KATHY] N- you know, um they gave us um
2657.20	2661.35	A:	[KATHY] books to read, you know. Okay, I'm going to flunk this marking period.
2661.35	2664.45	A:	[KATHY] But my s- um -- English teacher knew about it, you know.
2664.45	2667.30	A:	[KATHY] And goes, you want a tutor? I go, no thank you, you know.
2667.30	2670.80	A:	[KATHY] ((Uh well)) why don't you take it and, you know, get a good mark on it?
2670.80	2672.11	A:	[KATHY] Okay, you know.
2672.11	2678.33	A:	[KATHY] And, you know, then Dan was in the (( )) -- room and I didn't want to read. I, you know -- I go, well um 
2678.33	2680.85	A:	[KATHY] I make up excuses why I couldn't come.
2680.85	2685.10	A:	[KATHY] Well, I rather take gym right now. Could I make it up another day, you know.
2685.10	2689.34	A:	[KATHY] So finally, she left. And, you know, I don't -- I hate to read. I mean,
2689.34	2692.89	A:	[KATHY] because, I -- I feel so embarrassed because, I --
2692.89	2697.31	A:	[KATHY] I +stutter -- uh stutter -- stutter over the little words.
2697.82	2700.41	A:	[KATHY] I mean, I could read it if I knew what --
2700.89	2702.81	A:	[KATHY] you know, sometimes I can read
2702.81	2706.81	A:	[KATHY] the big words. Sometimes I can read the little words, but I can't
2707.02	2713.99	A:	[KATHY] M- especially, ofs, ifs, ands, you know, with the ~S or the ~T ~Hs. I cannot read them. 
2714.74	2717.51	A:	[KATHY] Gives me the biggest problem.
2718.79	2722.32	A:	[INTER] But wh- -- how is Lynn different from everybody else, that you were friends with her?
2721.90	2723.05	A:	[KATHY] I don't know.
2723.05	2724.83	A:	[KATHY] I really don't because,
2725.15	2726.39	A:	[KATHY] you -- um
2726.39	2732.75	A:	[KATHY] I want to vac- um -- my girlfriends asked me if I wanted to go down to the cottage with them for a weekend.
2732.75	2734.49	A:	[KATHY] Sure, you know. Why not?
2734.49	2735.92	A:	[KATHY] Have fun, you know.
2736.33	2740.40	A:	[KATHY] So we went there Friday night. Saturday morning I hated them all.
2740.77	2741.95	A:	[KATHY] I woke up
2741.95	2743.31	A:	[KATHY] bitchy.
2743.31	2747.97	A:	[KATHY] I yelled at them all. I took off. I wouldn't come back until Sunday night. 
2748.36	2748.97	A:	[KATHY] Because,
2748.97	2751.89	A:	[KATHY] ((they)) -- I don't really like girls. Girls -- 
2752.28	2755.07	A:	[KATHY] girls aren't my type. I mean
2755.07	2757.81	A:	[KATHY] eh girls can turn against you so fast.
2758.55	2762.22	A:	[KATHY] And, I think I can turn against girls very fast. 
2762.22	2765.09	A:	[KATHY] y- e- -- If they say one little word to me,
2765.57	2766.95	A:	[KATHY] that I don't like,
2766.95	2772.28	A:	[KATHY] I'll t- -- I'll certainly tell them because, I think that I got more of a guy in me than a girl.
2772.28	2775.09	A:	[KATHY] If I -- if a girl s- -- ever ask me,
2775.09	2776.41	A:	[KATHY] you like my outfit?
2776.41	2779.87	A:	[KATHY] And I'll -- I'll tell them the truth. No, I don't n- -- you know.
2779.87	2781.12	A:	[KATHY] In school,
2781.12	2785.24	A:	[KATHY] everybody -- you know, some kids were wearing stuff that I didn't like and I go, 
2785.24	2786.52	A:	[KATHY] um
2786.52	2788.52	A:	[KATHY] do you mind if I give you some
2788.52	2792.36	A:	[KATHY] quia- criticism? And he goes, no that's okay, you know.
2792.36	2797.90	A:	[KATHY] ((Know)) I really don't like that outfit on you. I think it would look better like this, you know, and I tell them, you know. 
2797.90	2799.48	A:	[KATHY] Go, thanks a lot, you know.
2799.48	2801.83	A:	[KATHY] ((Then)) -- and they thank me for it.
2801.83	2803.27	A:	[KATHY] You know, but,
2804.42	2806.34	A:	[KATHY] I cannot see saying,
2806.50	2808.86	A:	[KATHY] I like that outfit and not really.
2808.96	2809.71	A:	[INTER] Yeah.
2809.56	2813.72	A:	[KATHY] That's one thing about my sister. I -- I can't say that to her.
2814.35	2819.30	A:	[KATHY] I mean, she'll give me shorts, clothes, anything. Do you like this? Oh yes, Nancy, 
2819.30	2820.34	A:	[KATHY] I love it, you know. 
2820.67	2821.85	A:	[KATHY] Um, but,
2821.85	2822.99	A:	[KATHY] t- sh- sh- sh- --
2822.99	2826.78	A:	[KATHY] Uh, that's why I'm going to be glad when she gets out of here.
2826.78	2829.75	A:	[KATHY] So I don't have to wear all that shitty clothes she gives me.
2829.75	2832.47	A:	[KATHY] Some clothes of hers are nice on her.
2832.47	2834.71	A:	[KATHY] But, I wouldn't certainly wear them.
2834.71	2837.06	A:	[INTER] Mhm. What do you usually wear?
2836.86	2838.17	A:	[KATHY] My jeans.
2839.28	2840.16	A:	[KATHY] Jeans.
2839.42	2840.53	A:	[INTER] Do wear them to school?
2840.51	2842.57	A:	[KATHY] Yeah. Uh yeah we can now.
2843.06	2845.70	A:	[KATHY] My jeans and short shirts. 
2849.12	2850.01	A:	[KATHY] You know.
2849.57	2851.24	A:	[INTER] ((You try and get through with)) school, huh?
2854.01	2855.45	A:	[KATHY] I'm very tired.
2855.44	2856.98	A:	[INTER] You are, (( )).
2857.18	2859.43	A:	[KATHY] Um, okay.
2859.00	2860.10	A:	[SISTER] Kath when did
2859.19	2860.28	A:	[INTER] (( ))
2860.02	2861.08	A:	[KATHY] I don't care.
2860.10	2863.41	A:	[SISTER] when did your mother start letting you go out with boys?
2863.41	2864.69	A:	[KATHY] Uh sh- -- 
2864.69	2868.63	A:	[KATHY] oh, it's a funny story because, when I was in --
2868.63	2874.01	A:	[KATHY] when I was eleven I met my first -- I had my first guy -- boyfriend where the bridge is now.
2874.33	2875.92	A:	[KATHY] His house was there.
2875.92	2879.86	A:	[KATHY] And, you know, I seen him almost everyday, and I went down there.
2879.86	2882.29	A:	[KATHY] One day I broke up with him because I wasn't --
2882.29	2888.27	A:	[KATHY] w- -- wasn't with him for a week, you know. He didn't kiss me for a whole week, yeah. He was with a boyfriend. 
2888.27	2892.32	A:	[KATHY] I got pissed off so I broke up with him and I came home crying and cry-
2892.32	2895.64	A:	[KATHY] ((mother))