3.09 6.35 A: [KATHY] Okay I have one, two, three, four, five cigarettes. 6.17 8.49 A: [INTER] I've been smoking a whole lot of them. 8.71 10.41 A: [KATHY] Doorbell. 11.30 13.01 A: [KATHY] Go answer it. 12.71 13.79 A: [SISTER] Okay, I will. 18.71 20.91 A: [INTER] ((You can)) keep talking (( )). 21.32 24.55 A: [KATHY] If you really let me I'll let you sit here and talk all day. 24.55 25.77 A: [KATHY] I really would. 25.80 29.45 A: [SISTER] I've got enough money for my temples now with the twenty-five cents from -- 29.29 30.34 A: [INTER] Yeah, I know. 30.35 31.42 A: [KATHY] What temples? 31.47 33.81 A: [SISTER] Temples for my glasses. 33.88 35.16 A: [KATHY] Mm. 35.16 37.56 A: [KATHY] How much did it cost anyways? 35.55 36.10 A: [SISTER] (( )) 36.96 40.35 A: [SISTER] Two twenty-five for each -- two fifty for each one. 40.14 41.77 A: [KATHY] Where is my lighter anyways. 41.99 42.96 A: [KATHY] Lighter. 45.12 47.45 A: [SISTER] ((I'm hot)) 49.42 50.36 A: [SISTER] (( )) 51.56 52.46 A: [KATHY] Damn it. 54.28 56.33 A: [INTER] Your parents don't want you to get married? 56.96 57.69 A: [KATHY] Hm? 57.57 59.18 A: [INTER] Your parents don't want you to get married? 59.18 60.74 A: [KATHY] I don't care. 60.74 61.98 A: [KATHY] Lo- -- um. 63.95 64.93 A: [KATHY] U- a- -- 64.93 66.32 A: [KATHY] I don't care. 66.57 70.09 A: [KATHY] I mean I don't plan on having a big wedding anyways. 69.97 70.41 A: [INTER] Mhm. 70.61 72.39 A: [KATHY] Because I hate my picture taken. 72.96 74.51 A: [KATHY] I can't stand it. 75.09 78.03 A: [KATHY] It was up to me I would have five people 77.91 78.62 A: [INTER] Right. 79.29 83.81 A: [KATHY] and that is all. Me, my husband, the justice of peace and two witnesses. 83.78 84.39 A: [INTER] Mhm. 84.29 86.90 A: [KATHY] Because I cannot stand my picture taken. 89.49 90.87 A: [KATHY] Bugs me to hell. 91.86 93.25 A: [KATHY] It really does. 93.27 95.65 A: [INTER] And your dad is a photographer, that doesn't help much. 95.40 98.55 A: [KATHY] Yeah I know it. He loves to take pictures. 98.82 100.08 A: [KATHY] L- 101.34 103.56 A: [INTER] You don't like to have your picture taken either ((Nancy)) 109.36 110.92 A: [KATHY] I'm going to kill him. 110.92 113.14 A: [KATHY] Supposed to call him one, two o'clock. 116.93 118.57 A: [KATHY] Almost eight-thirty. 117.70 119.17 A: [INTER] ((Maybe he is really sick.)) 119.72 121.23 A: [KATHY] Yeah, probably. 121.85 123.67 A: [KATHY] No. He is not dying. 124.92 127.21 A: [KATHY] That's his -- that's his excuse. 128.28 134.99 A: [KATHY] Once -- once Dan tried to feed me some shit, he fell off his house and broke his leg. That's why he couldn't come over my house. 134.91 135.43 A: [INTER] Uh-huh. 135.44 136.81 A: [KATHY] Eh -- 140.58 142.39 A: [INTER] Was he out with someone else? 142.39 144.34 A: [KATHY] Mm I don't know, probably. 144.34 145.37 A: [KATHY] I mean. 146.84 149.86 A: [KATHY] See I cheated on him three times. 149.86 151.83 A: [KATHY] In the six months period. 153.62 155.17 A: [KATHY] Mm twice 155.17 160.30 A: [KATHY] I was just sitting there -- I just -- the the guy just came up and kissed me. 160.62 163.34 A: [KATHY] So wow, you know, I kissed him back, you know. 161.98 162.63 A: [INTER] Right. 162.91 163.50 A: [INTER] Right. 163.34 164.24 A: [KATHY] Fun. 164.24 168.11 A: [KATHY] So di- -- finally, I told Dan about that, you know. 168.11 169.75 A: [KATHY] And then, um. 169.75 175.91 A: [KATHY] When we just w- -- we broke up and we w- just went back, you know. He told me to go out with girls. 175.91 178.21 A: [KATHY] And me g- -- him go out with the guys. 178.21 180.62 A: [KATHY] Okay, fine and dandy, you know. 180.62 181.93 A: [KATHY] So um. 181.93 185.59 A: [KATHY] I went out with Bev and she was with this other guy, you know. 185.59 189.91 A: [KATHY] And they were making out and -- Bev is not the cleanest 189.91 193.02 A: [KATHY] girl in the world. Not at all. 193.57 195.91 A: [KATHY] And you know, they were. 196.91 200.45 A: [KATHY] Uh, hm you know they were doing it. I should say. 199.47 199.91 A: [INTER] Right. 200.45 201.72 A: [KATHY] And um. 201.77 203.28 A: [INTER] V- uh is there a lot of that around? 204.00 207.09 A: [KATHY] Well e- y- z- mm yeah. 207.03 210.25 A: [INTER] What do girls take pills or do they just sort of uh 210.25 211.96 A: [INTER] uh, hope for good luck? 211.67 213.46 A: [KATHY] Hope for good luck. 213.46 215.07 A: [KATHY] You know. Um. 214.97 216.47 A: [INTER] Do you mess around that way? 216.16 217.39 A: [KATHY] No I don't. 217.25 217.71 A: [INTER] That's good. 217.39 219.12 A: [KATHY] That's one thin- 218.48 222.70 A: [INTER] I mean, like, if you do, like, please take some sort of precaution, ((because it's --)) 221.70 222.47 A: [KATHY] No. 222.47 228.45 A: [KATHY] That's one thing about me. I will not l- -- not even let a guy feel me up because, see 228.45 234.26 A: [KATHY] since I was in seventh people ca- -- s- s- seventh grade, people called me a slut. 235.14 236.00 A: [KATHY] You know. 236.00 237.86 A: [KATHY] Because I hung around with guys. 237.84 238.36 A: [INTER] Uh-huh. 238.59 244.36 A: [KATHY] And I might get in bad positions, and you know guys would talk, and you know. 244.36 245.48 A: [KATHY] And, 245.48 248.24 A: [KATHY] and so I cannot take the chance. 248.62 252.47 A: [KATHY] ((Even)) let a guy feel me up and I'd tell them to screw, you know. 252.73 254.71 A: [KATHY] Because um one time 254.71 256.89 A: [KATHY] I was out with this guy. 256.89 261.26 A: [KATHY] You know he like- as -- I thought he liked me and I liked him, you know. 261.26 266.30 A: [KATHY] He liked me for one night because he thought he could get something off of me because, he thought I was a slut. 266.80 272.46 A: [KATHY] He tried, he got a punch in the balls and he quit. He quit right then and he -- 272.46 277.85 A: [KATHY] You know, he -- he told me he'll see me tomorrow and he'll talk to me tomorrow. Next day, 278.18 282.38 A: [KATHY] he wouldn't talk to me. ((He goes)) you slut don't talk to me, you know. 282.38 284.87 A: [KATHY] I -- oh, was I mad at him. 284.87 285.71 A: [KATHY] Th- 285.71 288.05 A: [KATHY] That's one thing e- -- you know because, 288.05 289.26 A: [KATHY] See Dan, 289.26 292.72 A: [KATHY] Isn't the cleanest guy in the world, at all. 292.72 295.26 A: [KATHY] And he would like 295.62 298.23 A: [KATHY] if I did l- -- let him, you know. 298.10 298.59 A: [INTER] Mhm. 298.55 304.28 A: [KATHY] So one time h- -- you know c- -- almost every ni- -- every day he asked me if he could. 304.10 304.72 A: [INTER] Right. 304.75 306.50 A: [KATHY] I go, uh-uh, you know. 306.71 312.15 A: [KATHY] So finally, you know eh -- got me all upset and I was talking to Bev and Maureen. 312.15 318.52 A: [KATHY] The two girls I shouldn't have talked to because they're the two girls that do it all the time, every night almost. 314.10 314.53 A: [INTER] Right. 318.52 320.91 A: [KATHY] To any guy they damn well please, you know. 320.73 322.69 A: [INTER] I- -- they -- they aren't pregnant yet? 322.58 324.60 A: [KATHY] Um, no. 324.79 325.66 A: [KATHY] Um. 326.10 327.14 A: [KATHY] Yeah. 328.26 329.39 A: [KATHY] No she wasn't. 330.28 331.72 A: [KATHY] And um, 331.72 335.42 A: [KATHY] so you know I asked him. I go, what am I going to do? 335.42 341.23 A: [KATHY] You know, I love him -- I -- you know, I really liked him a lot. And I go, I love him enough to do it, 341.23 342.92 A: [KATHY] but I don't want to. 342.92 346.15 A: [KATHY] I mean, I want to be a straight virgin when I get married. 345.73 346.19 A: [INTER] Yeah. 346.15 347.87 A: [KATHY] A straight virgin. 348.30 350.77 A: [KATHY] And, you know, because a guy -- 350.77 354.56 A: [KATHY] you know, because, Bev and Maureen has been used a lot 354.56 356.72 A: [KATHY] just to get the piece off, you know. 355.95 356.97 A: [INTER] Right, right. 356.72 362.05 A: [KATHY] And how do you really know if a guy likes you, if you let them do something they want, you know. 360.74 361.17 A: [INTER] ((Right.)) 362.05 364.01 A: [KATHY] Because, you know like 364.01 365.71 A: [KATHY] see um, 365.71 371.37 A: [KATHY] You know, you let him feel you up. Okay fine and dandy, you know. And then you um, 371.37 376.16 A: [KATHY] you know, like let him do something else. You don't -- you don't really if they're 376.03 378.50 A: [INTER] Like you for you or, right. 376.16 378.30 A: [KATHY] liking you -- yeah. 378.30 383.75 A: [KATHY] Eh -- that's why I I f- -- really feel strong about it and I won't let a guy touch me. 383.75 386.67 A: [KATHY] Because, if the guy loves you enough, 386.67 388.86 A: [KATHY] He will not try anything on you. 388.74 389.42 A: [INTER] Mhm. 392.29 393.62 A: [KATHY] Or he'll wait. 393.62 394.67 A: [KATHY] You know. 394.54 395.06 A: [INTER] Right. 395.11 396.12 A: [KATHY] But, 396.12 399.03 A: [KATHY] with Dan that w- -- that was a whole different story. 399.50 400.99 A: [KATHY] If he loves you enough 401.62 403.26 A: [KATHY] you should get something off of her 403.26 406.89 A: [KATHY] and the girl should give it to ((him)) because, sh- she loves him too. 407.16 408.81 A: [KATHY] Now that's how Dan thought. 409.49 412.45 A: [KATHY] He got rapped in the balls about fifty-thousand times 412.45 417.38 A: [KATHY] because, I wasn't going to take it. Because, you know, all he -- all he has to say 417.38 419.15 A: [KATHY] w- even now, 419.15 421.59 A: [KATHY] because everybody knew how much I loved him. 421.59 425.63 A: [KATHY] All he would have to say is, oh I got a nice piece off of her 425.50 426.07 A: [INTER] Yeah. 426.05 428.82 A: [KATHY] You know, there goes my name. ((Slut.)) Well -- 428.76 429.31 A: [INTER] Right. 428.94 433.31 A: [KATHY] And I'll kick any girl's ass if they call me one. But you can't do that to guys. 433.31 436.94 A: [KATHY] You can't sit there kicking the shit out of them because, you can still get a bad name. 436.64 437.29 A: [INTER] Right. 437.21 439.54 A: [KATHY] So, you know, you got to leave the guys alone, 439.54 440.92 A: [KATHY] comes to them. 441.37 445.82 A: [KATHY] That's one th- -- that's really one thing I feel strongly about. 445.76 448.44 A: [INTER] I think you're probably safe feeling that way. 448.80 450.41 A: [KATHY] I mean, you know, 452.16 453.41 A: [KATHY] I don't really 453.41 456.22 A: [KATHY] think anybody is a slut, 456.74 457.98 A: [KATHY] at all. 458.46 461.89 A: [KATHY] Because, you know, I know Bev is very mixed up. 461.79 462.18 A: [INTER] Mhm. 462.17 464.38 A: [KATHY] She is very mixed up because, sh- -- 464.38 468.86 A: [KATHY] the first guy she did it with she loved, and they were going to get married, and 468.77 469.68 A: [INTER] And then he took off. 469.22 472.35 A: [KATHY] Yeah, after (( )) they did it a couple times, you know. 472.74 473.67 A: [KATHY] And, 474.12 476.76 A: [KATHY] bad news because, I wasn't g- -- you know. 476.76 479.70 A: [KATHY] After I hear half the side of the story, forget it. 479.70 481.54 A: [KATHY] I don't even want to hear the other side. 482.54 489.00 A: [KATHY] Because, I know a couple of girls that had to get married, and I'm not going to have to get married. If a guy really loves me, he'll marry me, 489.00 491.34 A: [KATHY] and if he doesn't, the hell with him. 491.20 491.69 A: [INTER] Mhm. 492.98 493.82 A: [KATHY] ((So --)) 494.77 499.96 A: [INTER] What do girls take pills in uh the high school or mm do most of them just sort of trust. 499.74 500.62 A: [KATHY] Trust. 500.33 501.88 A: [INTER] Do guys use anything? 501.88 504.57 A: [KATHY] Um, sometimes, sometimes not, you know. 504.57 508.27 A: [KATHY] That's one -- you know, I had Bev and Maureen over 508.27 512.36 A: [KATHY] and, um, Maureen is going steady with this kid named Steve and 512.36 516.54 A: [KATHY] Bev met this kid named Tom, Steve brought him along, you know. 516.99 520.33 A: [KATHY] Bev and Maureen did it h- -- Bev and um 520.65 522.25 A: [KATHY] Maureen and Steve 522.92 523.79 A: [KATHY] Here. 524.05 533.15 A: [KATHY] ((You know)) I found the um package of the used rubber e- over there and, you know, oh fine. And um, Maur- -- um 533.91 536.72 A: [KATHY] Bev and Tom did it in my mother's bedroom. 537.22 542.71 A: [KATHY] Oh, you know, I invited them over because, my parents are going out, you know. A little fun. 542.71 547.25 A: [KATHY] It's all ((I)) expected. And then they do this, you know. Oh, so I'm mad. 548.43 550.83 A: [KATHY] Of course, they bring a guy for me, you know. 550.47 551.47 A: [INTER] Right. 551.55 553.18 A: [KATHY] Then me and him 553.18 558.81 A: [KATHY] sat downstairs watching ~TV all night or making pizza, you know. Mm. 559.19 560.71 A: [KATHY] Not -- because, 560.71 565.48 A: [KATHY] you know, one -- one thing I feel strongly about, if I just meet a guy 566.46 568.61 A: [KATHY] I really don't know what he is like. 568.61 570.42 A: [KATHY] I got to find out what he is like, 570.66 573.40 A: [KATHY] and then, you know, I trust in him. 573.85 575.31 A: [KATHY] And one thing I -- 575.31 579.64 A: [KATHY] t- I got mad at Ken very fast because, um, 579.96 581.62 A: [KATHY] It was Wednesday night, 581.99 584.31 A: [KATHY] I was looking through Ken's wallet, 584.31 585.46 A: [KATHY] I found a 585.78 588.28 A: [KATHY] a package of a rubber in it. 588.96 593.38 A: [KATHY] And I get all pissed off. And I go, what the hell do you think this is for? 593.38 594.76 A: [KATHY] Plan on using it on me? 594.76 599.57 A: [KATHY] Goes, Kathy I lo- -- I like you enough to not tr- -- do it to you so, why should I, you know. 599.57 604.91 A: [KATHY] Uh -- oh yeah, that's why you carry it around, you know. Dan always carried one. All the time. 604.91 612.35 A: [KATHY] In case that I would let him, you know. Always, you know. (( )) I'm tr- -- I'm trust -- I'm trying, you know. 612.79 613.97 A: [KATHY] But, um, 614.17 621.32 A: [KATHY] So I got all pissed off. And he goes, okay Kathy I'll prove it. He brings ten guys in, you know. Ten guys in this little room we're in. 621.32 623.27 A: [KATHY] And he goes, um, you know. 623.55 625.21 A: [KATHY] Goes um, what do I 625.21 632.59 A: [KATHY] w- what -- don't I sell these, guys. Oh yeah, that's for me isn't it? He takes it, you know. Oh yeah, mhm. 632.59 634.77 A: [KATHY] So I get all mad ((off, you know)). 634.77 638.19 A: [KATHY] And I go, yeah the hell with you, you know, and I walk out of the room. 638.19 643.14 A: [KATHY] He comes over and he -- he tried -- he tries to find me. I was hiding, you know. 643.14 646.44 A: [KATHY] He found me, apologizes until his heart is 646.44 649.12 A: [KATHY] becomes blue, you know. 646.96 647.45 A: [INTER] ((Right.)) 649.12 651.59 A: [KATHY] Goes, really Kathy I do sell them. 651.59 656.65 A: [KATHY] He goes, I sell them but, I don't use them at all. I go, have you ever done it? 656.65 661.01 A: [KATHY] He goes, Kathy I haven't ever done it. I don't want to until I'm married. 661.64 665.49 A: [KATHY] I go, you know, because, that's one thing about me I have to -- 665.83 667.75 A: [KATHY] Th- that's one thing I ask, 668.25 672.03 A: [KATHY] before I go out with a guy, if they have done it before. 672.03 676.05 A: [KATHY] Because if they done it, you know, they plan on doing it on me. I go, uh-uh. 676.05 677.48 A: [KATHY] But, with Dan, 678.28 682.45 A: [KATHY] that's a different story because, he -- he did it before 682.45 686.25 A: [KATHY] but, I didn't really care because, I liked him enough, you know. And I go, 686.80 688.59 A: [KATHY] okay, you know, fine 688.59 690.26 A: [KATHY] just don't try it on me. 689.71 691.10 A: [INTER] ((Right)) (( )). 691.41 692.16 A: [KATHY] But, 692.16 693.09 A: [KATHY] mm you know. 695.39 701.48 A: [KATHY] So, you know. So, after he goes, I'll be back in a minute. I go, okay, you know. He leaves, 701.68 707.83 A: [KATHY] One guy comes over. Kathy really he doesn't -- he sells them. He wouldn't try anything on you, and all this stuff. 707.83 709.94 A: [KATHY] He leaves, another guy come. 709.94 712.81 A: [KATHY] ((I'm getting so)) -- I got so sick of it. Then Ken comes, 712.81 721.83 A: [KATHY] really Kathy I y- eh -- I sell them you know. And I go, okay goddamn it, I believe you. Now don't apologize anymore, you know. So I kissed him, you know. 721.94 725.68 A: [KATHY] Goes, Kathy I really sell them, you know. I go. 725.68 729.94 A: [KATHY] Okay, you know. He goes, okay Kathy I'll never sell them again, I promise, you know. 729.94 732.32 A: [KATHY] That's how he met all the guys that I know. 730.15 730.55 A: [INTER] (( )) 732.13 732.78 A: [INTER] ((Uh-huh.)) 732.32 736.77 A: [KATHY] Dan ((Roedik)). He sells them to Dan ((Roedik)) 736.77 741.20 A: [KATHY] Because I -- I talk to him about Dan, you know. He goes, I know Dan. 741.20 746.87 A: [KATHY] Uh, oh, okay, you know. Finally, I found why he knew Dan because, he sells him ((the ru- --)). Oh God, you know 747.04 748.52 A: [KATHY] Mm. 748.89 750.67 A: [KATHY] Nice guy you got. 751.28 755.25 A: [INTER] Is there a lot of of dope around in in your school, or is it mostly booze? 755.04 756.18 A: [KATHY] Um, 755.25 756.12 A: [INTER] (( )) 756.67 759.70 A: [KATHY] ((a little)) -- most -- um -- a little of both. 760.54 763.34 A: [INTER] But do different group of kids that um 763.71 765.15 A: [INTER] ut- are dope 765.60 768.11 A: [SISTER] There's more dope in their school. 768.11 769.84 A: [SISTER] There really is. 769.90 773.85 A: [KATHY] I mean, a lot of kids in our school rather take dope than get drunk. 773.84 774.55 A: [INTER] Uh-huh. 774.05 779.93 A: [SISTER] Even in -- ev- even in seventh and eighth grade. I know four girls who have tried it in seventh grade. 780.09 782.95 A: [KATHY] I know a lot of kids that take dope. 782.67 783.53 A: [INTER] Mhm. 783.25 784.70 A: [KATHY] And, you know, 785.17 787.07 A: [KATHY] I -- I'm not g- 787.07 790.20 A: [KATHY] I'll t- -- I'll level with you. I tried it. 790.24 791.81 A: [INTER] What -- what is this marijuana? 791.62 794.83 A: [KATHY] No, I +tried grass. Wow, big shit, you know. 793.62 794.96 A: [INTER] Well, yeah right, mhm. 794.83 796.47 A: [KATHY] So, you know. 796.10 797.56 A: [INTER] Yeah, I've tried it, too. 797.43 798.29 A: [KATHY] Yeah. 798.29 801.68 A: [KATHY] N- -- and you know, usually you're supposed to 801.68 804.52 A: [KATHY] five, six, times and then get high on it. 804.22 804.85 A: [INTER] Mhm. 805.08 810.14 A: [KATHY] I tried it four times. I go, the hell with it. I'm not going to get high on it. I'm not taking it, you know. 809.78 810.42 A: [INTER] Mhm. 810.36 812.19 A: [KATHY] But, I used to 812.19 818.95 A: [KATHY] um, in school I used to take a lot of pills. Well not a lot of pills, just some pills. Most -- 817.99 819.14 A: [INTER] Like ups or downs? 818.95 821.38 A: [KATHY] op -- um, a little bit of both, you know. 820.74 821.23 A: [INTER] Uh-huh. 821.61 826.80 A: [KATHY] Eh, because sometimes I like to get in a down mood, so I ta- -- you know, took some down pills. 826.80 830.44 A: [KATHY] But, you know, I go the hell with it now because 830.70 833.79 A: [KATHY] I'm the way I am, and I'm not going to wreck myself. 833.79 835.72 A: [KATHY] Because, I know a lot of people 835.72 836.98 A: [KATHY] eh, you know, 836.98 838.46 A: [KATHY] like Lynn. 838.83 839.62 A: [KATHY] She 840.32 841.15 A: [KATHY] Yeah. 842.08 844.35 A: [FATHER] You know, it probably would please your mother 844.35 847.43 A: [FATHER] if you'd all come down and watch us burn 847.43 849.91 A: [FATHER] the brandy on the cherry jubilee. 848.52 850.52 A: [INTER] Oh your making cherry jubilee now. 850.44 850.96 A: [FATHER] Yeah. 850.52 851.84 A: [INTER] Okay. 854.33 855.17 A: [FATHER] Hey you done eating? 854.58 856.42 A: [INTER] Okay, go ahead. 856.25 860.74 A: [KATHY] You know, Lynn, she was on it. She was on everything. 861.90 868.98 A: [KATHY] But, um, s- -- and I'm glad she is off of it now. But she has still got her friends that are on it, you know. 868.98 873.17 A: [KATHY] And -- because lost her hearing and sight for three hours. 873.11 874.17 A: [SISTER] Oh wow. 873.36 875.52 A: [INTER] Oh really? Oh on what? 875.31 876.95 A: [KATHY] On um, 876.95 878.22 A: [KATHY] um acid. 878.72 882.82 A: [KATHY] And sh- -- and you know, it was bad news because she was in a park. 882.99 883.99 A: [INTER] Oh dear. 883.84 886.79 A: [KATHY] Hearing and sight for three hours. 886.30 887.46 A: [INTER] ((She)) must have been terrified. 887.42 890.41 A: [KATHY] She was. She thought she was dead, you know. 890.41 893.88 A: [KATHY] And she -- after that, she won't take any more. 893.88 900.11 A: [KATHY] maybe m- -- you know, sometimes, maybe grass. But, that's about all you know. That's all she is going to go for. 900.11 902.85 A: [KATHY] And e- -- it's bad news because sh- -- 902.85 904.94 A: [KATHY] She has still got all her friends 904.94 907.72 A: [KATHY] that used to take it and give to her and all this stuff. 907.15 907.89 A: [INTER] Mhm. 908.41 909.92 A: [KATHY] And um, 910.97 914.29 A: [KATHY] she, you know, she is a real good kid 914.29 920.17 A: [KATHY] but, that's one thing I don't like about her because, all her friends come up to her. You want to go out and take grass, you know. 920.17 923.16 A: [KATHY] You know, no. You know, if Kathy does, you know. 923.16 928.64 A: [KATHY] And you know, if Kathy does but, Kathy doesn't want to go. So Lynn doesn't want to go ca- -- 923.43 923.86 A: [INTER] Oh. 926.58 927.02 A: [INTER] ((Yeah.)) 928.64 932.75 A: [KATHY] I- -- she is just trying to make excuses. So they got to come up to me, you know. 931.04 931.56 A: [INTER] Right. 932.17 932.66 A: [INTER] Mhm. 932.94 934.31 A: [KATHY] And one thing I don't 934.31 936.91 A: [KATHY] like about Lynn, she has done it, too. 936.92 937.44 A: [INTER] Mhm. 937.46 939.51 A: [KATHY] She -- sh- um, 939.51 941.35 A: [KATHY] a guy named Tony 941.35 944.48 A: [KATHY] he was twenty-th- -- he was um thirty-three 944.96 946.02 A: [SISTER] Thirty-three. 945.42 949.34 A: [KATHY] He -- she thought she -- he was twenty-th- three, you know. 949.34 952.60 A: [KATHY] And he has three kids and he is married. 952.43 953.02 A: [INTER] Mhm. 953.17 958.82 A: [KATHY] And but, she really -- she really loves -- she still does love him a lot. I mean, you know. 956.02 956.92 A: [SISTER] ((How old is she?)) 958.82 960.26 A: [KATHY] Goodbye.