4.13	7.89	A:	[LOUISE] Disgrace him. What I did, it was more against, you know, like uh
7.89	13.86	A:	[LOUISE] going and +undermining him. Like, s- they say you can't go over there, this -- you know, friend's house, I'd go.
13.86	16.75	A:	[LOUISE] Or you shouldn't run around this girl over here, I'd go.
16.75	22.13	A:	[LOUISE] You know, just little stuff like that (( )) you know. I'd tell I was going to get married, or stuff like that. 
22.13	25.44	A:	[LOUISE] That's ((the only thing there))-- like Daddy always told me, growing up he ((said)), I'll tell you, 
25.44	26.02	A:	[LOUISE] he said, Louise, 
26.02	29.18	A:	[LOUISE] you're the *hatefulest ((blame)) girl I ever seen. He looked at Elvin, 
29.18	34.48	A:	[LOUISE] he said, you better never hurt her, because I'll come back to haunt you if (( )). Because he said, she is, said, she is hateful. 
34.48	38.31	A:	[LOUISE] I am. I'll do anything. You tell me I can't do anything, I do it.
38.31	43.65	A:	[LOUISE] Now that's al-- that's always, you know, been me. Course after I got older, I look back now and it's stupid.
43.65	48.03	A:	[LOUISE] I mean, really, I ((can see how stup- )). And I said -- I got a kid, though, just like me.
48.03	49.35	A:	[LOUISE] That Charlie,
49.35	51.54	A:	[LOUISE] you tell him he can't do anything, and he'll do it.
51.19	52.00	A:	[LABOV] How many kids did you get?
51.54	53.78	A:	[LOUISE] I got three, two boys and a girl.
53.50	54.74	A:	[LABOV] Uh, Charlie is the youngest?
54.66	55.42	A:	[LOUISE] Charles is youngest, 
55.42	57.01	A:	[LOUISE] Jim is next, and Kay is the oldest.
57.01	59.42	A:	[LOUISE] ((I got three of them.))
60.61	61.30	A:	[LOUISE] Yep.
61.63	63.85	A:	[LABOV] Where did you live when you first got married?
63.70	66.28	A:	[LOUISE] Down here in the alley. This house right ((down)) here behind me.
67.13	68.54	A:	[LABOV] Oh, ((it was near your)) folks then.
68.78	70.53	A:	[LOUISE] Mm. My -- my mother today live there.
70.31	71.11	A:	[LABOV] Oh, ((in the)) same house?
70.53	73.32	A:	[LOUISE] Yeah, they -- see, they got to liking the kids' daddy after --
73.32	74.97	A:	[LABOV] Oh, I see.
74.71	79.08	A:	[LOUISE] It just idea, I think, more or less what they had against ((all it)) is ((me)) getting married and ((not telling)).
79.08	81.60	A:	[LOUISE] Well, if I'd told him, he'd had the fit anyhow, so --
81.60	83.14	A:	[LABOV] What did he do for a living?
83.14	84.86	A:	[LOUISE] Uh, he is a sign painter. 
84.86	86.37	A:	[LOUISE] That's my-- 
86.37	88.17	A:	[LOUISE] That's my oldest in there.
87.92	88.68	A:	[LABOV] Kay.
88.17	89.38	A:	[LOUISE] That's Kay. 
89.38	90.28	A:	[LOUISE] That's my oldest one.
91.70	93.01	A:	[LOUISE] Shut up.
92.76	94.19	A:	[LABOV] Uh, so what did you say he did?
94.14	95.39	A:	[LOUISE] He is a sign painter.
95.39	96.88	A:	[LOUISE] He ((can paint a sign --)) Yeah.
95.70	96.76	A:	[LABOV] Oh, really?
96.88	101.45	A:	[LOUISE] I bet everybody round here in ((Knoxville know him)), I mean *olders -- you know, people, like the ((old)) 
101.45	102.03	A:	[LOUISE] #Name_suppressed#
102.03	102.52	A:	[LOUISE] #Name_suppressed#
102.52	103.81	A:	[LOUISE] ((furniture)), or
103.81	105.35	A:	[LOUISE] This um
105.35	107.08	A:	[LOUISE] guy over here that owns cars, 
107.08	109.94	A:	[LOUISE] he done ((a lo-)) all the jewelry stores uptown. Yep.
109.50	112.34	A:	[LABOV] ((He ever do any s- s- screen painting? Silk screening?))
112.21	113.43	A:	[LOUISE] He did it all. 
113.20	113.70	A:	[LABOV] He ((did)) all.
113.43	116.52	A:	[LOUISE] Yeah, and he could uh draw pictures. I mean, he could take a picture of you and
116.52	117.90	A:	[LOUISE] draw you.
117.90	126.00	A:	[LOUISE] My sister-in-law did have one he drawed of her and Mom. But I don't know where it's at. Whether she has even got it yet. Yeah, he could do anything. I mean, he was gifted. 
126.00	129.02	A:	[LOUISE] Never took no schooling for it. Just gifted.
128.77	131.12	A:	[LABOV] Well, he just picked up -- did he work (( )) a sign shop?
130.94	131.63	A:	[LOUISE] Yeah.
131.63	137.11	A:	[LOUISE] He worked several of them round here. But you know they're ((gone)) out of business now and I can't think of their name. He used um -- 
137.11	139.77	A:	[LOUISE] These police cars, he used to work for the police department.
139.47	139.95	A:	[LABOV] Uh-huh.
139.77	142.70	A:	[LOUISE] And you know put those eagles and things on the cops' cars.
142.70	144.13	A:	[LOUISE] But that would
149.83	154.70	A:	[LOUISE] (( )) And how he ever did it without making them things come apart, I ((don't)) ever know. 
155.61	156.31	A:	[LABOV] Uh-huh.
156.38	157.38	A:	[LOUISE] So the kids --
157.38	158.75	A:	[LOUISE] Yeah, he cooked.
160.39	161.57	A:	[LOUISE] He is a good cook.
162.48	163.60	A:	[LABOV] Really.
163.60	165.11	A:	[LABOV] Uh.
165.11	172.26	A:	[LABOV] (( ))
172.26	173.91	A:	[LABOV] So he was um
173.91	180.02	A:	[LABOV] Well, yo- you had a a temper, so you did manage to get into arguments, I would imagine now and then.
179.89	181.02	A:	[LOUISE] Oh, yeah.
181.02	186.37	A:	[LOUISE] Yeah. I could always get a good argument out. Going to wrestling, that'd get him, oh God, that'd get him every time.
186.37	188.26	A:	[LOUISE] He couldn't stand me go to wrestling.
188.26	190.19	A:	[LOUISE] And I love wrestling.
189.65	191.10	A:	[LABOV] Is that so?
190.93	192.25	A:	[LOUISE] I still go, too.
195.64	197.71	A:	[LABOV] Uh, he just didn't care for it?
197.60	200.07	A:	[LOUISE] He didn't. No.
200.07	202.38	A:	[LOUISE] And I reckon he thought, you know, 
202.38	204.26	A:	[LOUISE] ((what now --)) uh, he drunk.
204.26	207.13	A:	[LOUISE] And I didn't say anything about it, because it wouldn't do no good.
207.13	213.30	A:	[LOUISE] So we'd go and, you know, he'd get drunk. So me and the kids, we'd take off, we'd go to wrestling, or maybe go to shore or something like ((that and)) --
213.30	216.39	A:	[LOUISE] Oh God, he objected to that to high heaven.
216.39	222.92	A:	[LOUISE] Tha- ((it)) didn't do him no good. Still ain't doing nobody no good, because I'm still going, I go every Friday night. I enjoy wrestling.
222.63	223.48	A:	[LABOV] Mhm.
222.92	225.34	A:	[LOUISE] I'm a wrestling fan.
225.34	228.71	A:	[LOUISE] And I got a son right down the street here from me. He is too.
228.71	230.39	A:	[LOUISE] He works in Indiana.
230.39	237.19	A:	[LOUISE] Works in New Albany, Indiana up there for a company down here that got burned out. They had to put a building up there, you know, make furniture.
237.19	243.74	A:	[LOUISE] So, he is boss up there, and he goes up there and works through the week, and gets in here on time for us all go to wrestling on Friday night, and we go.
245.27	249.05	A:	[LOUISE] Now, my youngest one and that girl of mine, now they don't care anything about wrestling.
248.97	249.60	A:	[LABOV] Uh-huh.
249.05	255.88	A:	[LOUISE] They can go, or they can leave, as long as me and that oldest boy of mine, we can take off and we go, and his wife and kids.
255.15	255.97	A:	[LABOV] That's Jim.
255.88	256.51	A:	[LOUISE] Yeah. 
256.51	257.10	A:	[LOUISE] ((Jim.))
257.40	259.45	A:	[LABOV] Well, he is married. Th- -- they're all three married.
259.28	260.19	A:	[LOUISE] N- no, 
260.19	262.44	A:	[LOUISE] Charlie has been married twice, but he is divorce.
262.44	263.65	A:	[LOUISE] Both times.
263.65	265.36	A:	[LOUISE] Nope.
264.40	265.59	A:	[LABOV] How many grandchildren you got?
265.36	266.44	A:	[LOUISE] I got four. 
266.44	267.25	A:	[LOUISE] Kay has got one, 
267.25	268.50	A:	[LOUISE] Jimmy has got three.
270.18	271.69	A:	[LOUISE] And Charlie has got none.
271.69	275.55	A:	[LOUISE] He don't stay married long enough. He is jus- you see, his first marriage last three days,
275.55	277.93	A:	[LOUISE] second marriage last two weeks, so there you are.
277.57	278.71	A:	[LABOV] No kidding.
277.93	280.40	A:	[LOUISE] He can't stand to be tied down.
280.40	289.45	A:	[LOUISE] He is a free agent. He has been that way ever since he was a kid. We couldn't tie him down when he was a kid. He would slip off and go places. Be gone two, three o'clock in the morning, always make it home.
289.45	294.12	A:	[LOUISE] You just can't tie Charlie down. He is just an-- I mean, he has traveled too far now and
294.12	299.41	A:	[LOUISE] got in Viet- you know, they -- he went in service. He got ((mad at)) me and somebody signed him in service when he was seventeen.
299.41	301.38	A:	[LOUISE] And he has b- -- ((that ain't)) too many states in
301.38	304.58	A:	[LOUISE] this country ((he ain't)) been. Been to Vietnam. Japan.
304.58	308.87	A:	[LOUISE] And he just travel too much, and he said after you go like that, and been all over.
308.87	313.08	A:	[LOUISE] You see things, and he said jus- marriage just ain't for it. He'll date, but he won't marry.
313.08	314.72	A:	[LOUISE] Marry no girl.
315.76	318.02	A:	[LABOV] (( )) But he still tried it twice?
317.87	323.04	A:	[LOUISE] Yep, he is ti- Well, he was just -- see, he married once, before h- he went to -- went service.
322.78	323.30	A:	[LABOV] Uh-huh.
323.04	325.24	A:	[LOUISE] He just seventeen when he married Linda.
325.24	329.60	A:	[LOUISE] And then uh when he came back out of service, why, he thought he would try it again, 
329.60	333.58	A:	[LOUISE] and he come back ((let's see it was)) in seventy, I believe it was. Seventy or seventy-one.
333.58	338.14	A:	[LOUISE] Well, it was right before Vietnam. They started +clear- clearing soldiers out of Vietnam.
338.14	341.83	A:	[LOUISE] Because he wanted to sign up. He was going to stay back in or if they'd send him back to Vietnam. 
341.83	344.53	A:	[LOUISE] Because he met a little girl over there. I got her picture in there.
344.51	345.03	A:	[LABOV] Really.
344.53	345.55	A:	[LOUISE] Yeah.
345.55	348.65	A:	[LOUISE] He met a little girl in Vietnam he liked pretty good.
348.65	350.42	A:	[LOUISE] And he ((want)) go back.
350.42	355.02	A:	[LABOV] Eh, there's something I want to (( )) about raising children. I see there that my uh
355.02	358.78	A:	[LABOV] ((like)) ((foolishly)) I let my batteries get low. I wonder i--
357.69	358.67	A:	[LOUISE] Yeah.
358.67	362.38	A:	[LOUISE] I say if it gets any higher, we're going to have to get rich to buy it. 
361.66	363.38	A:	[LABOV] ((What is it, three dollars a pound around here.))
363.32	367.76	A:	[LOUISE] No, it's-- uh, what we drink is instant. It's two sixty something, sixty-five, I think it is.
367.76	371.52	A:	[LOUISE] She trades at Kroger's, so that's what we get for it.
373.58	377.18	A:	[LABOV] Well, see, when you first got married, you're saying you -- you lived with your folks?
376.94	378.24	A:	[LOUISE] Yep. 
377.66	378.56	A:	[LABOV] Your mom was doing the cooking?
378.24	380.25	A:	[LOUISE] I lived with them after I got married, too.
380.51	381.72	A:	[LABOV] Uh?
381.72	383.03	A:	[LABOV] ((For)) quite a while.
382.90	388.64	A:	[LOUISE] I told you after they got over their fit, everything was okay, because they -- I mean, ((Elvin hadn't)) never done anything to them just like him.
388.58	389.24	A:	[LABOV] Yeah.
388.64	391.59	A:	[LOUISE] So the- -- they couldn't hate him.
391.59	393.83	A:	[LOUISE] They just got mad because I got married.
393.83	395.50	A:	[LOUISE] No, I lived with them -- Why, 
395.50	396.15	A:	[LOUISE] #Name_suppressed#
396.15	396.98	A:	[LOUISE] was born.
396.98	398.47	A:	[LOUISE] Before I ever left them there.
398.43	399.30	A:	[LABOV] Uh-huh.
400.28	401.90	A:	[LOUISE] Before I even went to housekeeping.
403.31	406.99	A:	[LABOV] Well, how would -- when you first got married, di- -- did you think of having a big family?
407.36	411.69	A:	[LOUISE] Nope, not really, I didn't even think a thing about ((it)). You know how people says they do. But I didn't.
413.47	414.75	A:	[LOUISE] Really, I didn't.
416.64	419.68	A:	[LOUISE] In fact, I always said I had two too many. 
419.68	426.55	A:	[LOUISE] I tell that baby boy of +mine that, and that, and he gets ((so)) mad at me. He say Momma won't you shut up? I say, well, I had two too many.
426.55	428.03	A:	[LOUISE] Jimmy says -- Now Jimmy, 
428.03	429.47	A:	[LOUISE] I wouldn't take the world for Jim. 
429.47	431.54	A:	[LOUISE] ((Boy, that)) kid, he is good to me as gold.
431.25	431.97	A:	[LABOV] Uh-huh.
431.54	436.14	A:	[LOUISE] He ((tries to)) see Momma go *somewheres every week. See, I don't work
436.14	438.18	A:	[LOUISE] or anything. Well, I did.
438.18	439.38	A:	[LOUISE] And then uh,
439.38	441.50	A:	[LOUISE] I got too ol- I'm too uh,
441.50	449.30	A:	[LOUISE] uh. What you call it? I'm too young for old age pension or social security, whatever it is, and too old to work. So --
449.08	450.22	A:	[LABOV] Hi. You're -- you're 
450.22	450.97	A:	[LABOV] #Name_suppressed#
450.97	453.29	A:	[LABOV] I'm B- Bill Labov. I was 
450.98	451.86	A:	[LOUISE] Yep.
453.29	456.92	A:	[LABOV] just chatting with your mom about growing up around here in Knoxville.
456.92	459.45	A:	[LABOV] My business is --
458.93	463.59	A:	[LOUISE] Child brutality. Don't she look like I been child brutality to her? 
463.59	466.72	A:	[LOUISE] She always been like that all her life.
466.72	470.66	A:	[LOUISE] ((I'll see)) that ol- -- that older boy of mine, one next to her, 
470.24	470.83	A:	[LABOV] Uh-huh.
470.66	473.42	A:	[LOUISE] j- -- he just weighs two hundred and fifty pounds.
473.42	475.29	A:	[LOUISE] Mhm.
473.93	474.54	A:	[LABOV] Really?
475.29	478.80	A:	[LOUISE] Now he looks like he has been child brutality, too.
478.80	484.09	A:	[LOUISE] Now the other one, I'm telling you, he is just a long-legged, skinny kid. He eats all the time and
484.09	485.94	A:	[LOUISE] don't even get fat.
486.65	491.84	A:	[LABOV] Well, now, when you were first raising a kid, um, what kind of diapers did you use?
492.08	494.39	A:	[LOUISE] Plain old cloth ones. That's all we had back then.
494.39	499.42	A:	[LOUISE] I ne- -- You never heard of Pampers until after they uh -- I reckon Betty was the first one, wasn't she? 
499.42	500.86	A:	[LOUISE] Paul is oldest one, ain't he?
500.86	501.72	A:	[LOUISE] Yeah?
501.73	503.03	A:	[LABOV] Square ones.
503.10	505.92	A:	[LOUISE] N- yep. Bird's eyes, they called them.
505.48	506.04	A:	[LABOV] Yeah.
505.92	508.55	A:	[LOUISE] Naw, I -- that's all I ever used.
508.58	510.41	A:	[LABOV] What did you do about diaper rash?
510.79	512.83	A:	[LOUISE] Just plain old Johnson powders.
512.83	514.57	A:	[LOUISE] That's all I ever did ((with)) my kids.
514.57	517.38	A:	[LOUISE] They never was bothered with it, though. I always changed them.
519.48	521.21	A:	[LABOV] ((One of)) the kids ever really get sick?
522.17	527.31	A:	[LOUISE] No, not really. Except, you know, childhood diseases. I don't remember none of my kids being --
527.31	532.66	A:	[LOUISE] What you say, s- she -- her little boy has been sicker than she ever was in her whole life.
532.59	533.79	A:	[LABOV] Really? What happened?
532.66	535.34	A:	[LOUISE] He had meningitis, didn't he? 
535.34	536.68	A:	[LOUISE] David did, yeah?
536.68	546.38	A:	[LOUISE] So really, I mean, uh -- he is the only kid, and she puts all of it on him, you know, all the ((cleanest)) and everything. But he come down with me- meningitis. Nobody can't understand that. 
546.88	547.74	A:	[LABOV] How is he now?
547.67	552.04	A:	[LOUISE] He is okay now. God, that's wa- -- that's years ago, wasn't it? But I'm just telling you, 
552.04	557.92	A:	[LOUISE] huh, you can have two or three kids and you raise them better than you can one. I mean, they get along better than one. One kid --
557.92	559.45	A:	[LOUISE] That young one gets everything.
559.45	563.97	A:	[LOUISE] He has been ((sewed on)). H- -- Now you talk about me being headlong.
563.97	565.94	A:	[LOUISE] That kid is headlong.
565.94	568.79	A:	[LOUISE] Now that's another one. He is like his granny.
568.34	569.09	A:	[LABOV] Uh-huh.
570.04	580.52	A:	[LOUISE] She has been -- he has been in the hospital. He has had um his head sewed up about four, five times, ((ain't he))? Go swim, how many? Twice? He'll go swimming and he gets his head cut every time he goes.
580.52	583.78	A:	[LOUISE] Yep. Jumping, going on, like a little nut.
580.57	581.29	A:	[LABOV] Really?
583.78	586.32	A:	[LOUISE] He ain't afraid of nothing.
586.32	589.29	A:	[LOUISE] I told him the other day he didn't have the sense he was born with.
589.02	589.89	A:	[LABOV] How old is he now?
589.29	591.83	A:	[LOUISE] He'll be nine in October.
591.83	598.49	A:	[LOUISE] Now you talk about a kid that's wild, th- -- Boy, I'll tell you, that's what I say, this child brutality stuff ((is)) ma- -- He tell her.
598.49	600.94	A:	[LOUISE] He says, you whup me and I'll tell you on, won't he?
600.94	609.18	A:	[LOUISE] She say, I ain't going to jail for you. And she won't whip him. I told her, I said, let me have part of that ((tail)). I show you how to make him. Boy, I get a ((hold)) (( )), and I bust him, I say, ((now)) go to tell on me.
609.18	612.44	A:	[LOUISE] She say, I ain't going to jail for you. 
612.44	618.03	A:	[LOUISE] Betty down there ((the other day, they *supposed to)) told her that, that's my oldest grandbaby. Now he'll be eleven
618.03	620.07	A:	[LOUISE] next month? June? 
620.07	626.55	A:	[LOUISE] And uh she said s- doing something ((down there)), you- -- She hadn't even touched him. And he said, well, I'll just out there and tell them you were just uh
626.55	628.12	A:	[LOUISE] oh uh
628.12	630.46	A:	[LOUISE] mean, or something, you know, so they'll 
630.46	631.80	A:	[LOUISE] put me in a home.
631.80	633.83	A:	[LOUISE] I said, well, this is like this, Paul.
633.83	637.56	A:	[LOUISE] I said, you ain't been a hold of until I get a hold of you. I said, let me get a hold of you.
637.56	644.75	A:	[LOUISE] I said, now when you get everything you want, I said, toys, you belong to ((a boys')) club. I said, you get clothes every week, something to eat, 
644.75	646.43	A:	[LOUISE] nice place to stay, 
646.43	648.48	A:	[LOUISE] nice stuff (( )) you don't care to bring your friends in. 
648.48	655.55	A:	[LOUISE] And I said, then you ((set)) here and tell your mother that you'd rather be in juvenile ((than here)). I said, buddy, you need your tail busted. And I said, I'll do it.
655.55	658.13	A:	[LOUISE] I can't stand to hear kids say that.
658.51	660.40	A:	[LABOV] Well that's a new fad round here. I don- --
660.12	661.14	A:	[LOUISE] Jimmy --
661.14	665.34	A:	[LOUISE] Jimmy has give them kids -- you ask her. They've got everything.
665.34	668.57	A:	[LOUISE] T- -- They got their own ~T ~V.
667.16	669.41	A:	[LABOV] ((Jimmy's)) kids are ((uh Paul)) and --
668.57	669.68	A:	[LOUISE] uh 
669.68	671.65	A:	[LOUISE] Phillip and uh Jody.
671.65	675.25	A:	[LOUISE]  Now that's my doll. He is just too -- He just four years old. He just too little --
675.25	677.27	A:	[LOUISE] All he wants do is wrestle.
677.27	682.95	A:	[LOUISE] And that's it. That kid could live twenty-four hours a day if you just lay down the floor and let him stomp you.
682.95	687.13	A:	[LOUISE] That's right. He is with his daddy now. He went ((this week staying)) with his daddy.
687.13	689.70	A:	[LOUISE] And his mother. He called his mother yesterday morning. 
689.70	693.21	A:	[LOUISE] Betty said he told her, said uh who's that- -- uh working your ((daddy's)) -- You know see, 
693.21	695.86	A:	[LOUISE] Jimmy is boss up there. Said, who is them men working for your daddy?
695.86	699.10	A:	[LOUISE] He said, there's one fat one and a whole bunch of skinny ones.
699.10	701.75	A:	[LOUISE] So that's his description of those men.
701.59	703.78	A:	[LABOV] Jim is good -- one of them big, good-natured fellows. 
704.11	708.60	A:	[LOUISE] Well, I tell you what. Yep, he is good as gold. ((It)) ain't a thing he wouldn't do for me, 
708.60	711.28	A:	[LOUISE] or for her, or for anybody.
711.28	712.76	A:	[LOUISE] If you leave him alone.
712.76	716.59	A:	[LOUISE] But get out of his way, God, if he is mad. That right, Kay?
716.59	719.36	A:	[LOUISE] I mean, get way out of his way.
719.36	722.41	A:	[LOUISE] Because he don't buck from nobody.
722.41	727.24	A:	[LOUISE] He just weighs two hundred forty-five pounds. (( )) I say he is about six one, six two.
727.24	730.82	A:	[LOUISE] Now eh -- I mean eh -- now he is no trouble maker, don't get me wrong.
730.82	732.17	A:	[LOUISE] He is a good kid.
732.17	734.83	A:	[LOUISE] He is no trouble maker. He don't start no trouble.
734.83	735.63	A:	[LOUISE] But
735.63	738.07	A:	[LOUISE] ((he is)) easy to get his dander stirred.
737.68	739.82	A:	[LABOV] What's -- what's ((this uh business of his in)) --
739.82	747.33	A:	[LOUISE] He is uh -- works for uh ((Silver's)) manufacturing company. Bou- -- You know, Silver's manufacturing company. It got burnt down year,
747.33	749.43	A:	[LOUISE] year before last, wasn't it?
749.43	754.25	A:	[LOUISE] January, I think it was. It's been burnt over a year. And see, they uh --
749.44	750.36	A:	[LABOV] Yeah.
754.25	759.11	A:	[LOUISE] Well, they didn't like the location down here, building the furniture. you know, people ((building)).
759.11	761.02	A:	[LOUISE] So they went to Indiana
761.02	763.48	A:	[LOUISE] and got them a location up there and sent Jim up there.
763.78	765.59	A:	[LABOV] Oh, so he has to travel up to the --
764.95	768.12	A:	[LOUISE] Yeah. See, he still works for a company here in Knoxville, but
768.12	770.85	A:	[LOUISE] he goes up there, you see, and -- Yeah.
769.25	770.15	A:	[LABOV] ((Well)), he is the foreman?
770.85	772.20	A:	[LOUISE] Big shot.
772.20	773.39	A:	[LOUISE] Big dog.
773.39	775.66	A:	[LOUISE] Yeah. He is the foreman up there.
775.66	778.25	A:	[LOUISE] He has been with them though, he w- -- See that was uh 
778.25	779.47	A:	[LOUISE] #Name_suppressed#
779.47	780.88	A:	[LOUISE] then it was um --
780.88	783.67	A:	[LOUISE] What was the other company took it over? Gaines?
783.67	785.58	A:	[LOUISE] It went to Gaines and ((Atkins)). 
785.58	788.88	A:	[LOUISE] And Jimmy has been with all through it all. And then Silver's was the last one to get it.
788.88	790.71	A:	[LOUISE] So he has been ((you know)) there for years.
790.71	792.35	A:	[LABOV] An- -- And what do they make there?
792.28	793.49	A:	[LOUISE] Furniture.
793.49	796.30	A:	[LOUISE] End tables. I got a clock in here they make
796.30	798.25	A:	[LOUISE] and uh coffee tables.
798.25	799.75	A:	[LOUISE] Stuff like that. Yeah.
799.75	801.68	A:	[LABOV] I see their name around but I ((wouldn't)) --
801.05	801.68	A:	[LOUISE] Yeah.
801.68	807.42	A:	[LOUISE] Well, I imagine they sell all the United States, because he tells us he has loads going to California and New York and --
809.21	810.42	A:	[LABOV] Well now, uh
813.87	821.76	A:	[LABOV] Go back to that -- to raising -- raising kids a bit. Um. So you -- you were lucky y- you never had any -- your kids never really got real sick.
821.46	822.86	A:	[LOUISE] No, I (( )).
821.76	826.92	A:	[LABOV] (( )) got a -- a cut. Uh, you know, really big gash in the hand. What would you do for first aid?
827.32	829.36	A:	[LOUISE] You know what? Their daddy did it.
831.30	832.28	A:	[LOUISE] Not me.
832.28	834.47	A:	[LOUISE] You know where I go when something happens?
834.47	836.11	A:	[LOUISE] The opposite way.
836.11	838.60	A:	[LOUISE] Mm mm. See, my uh -- now,
836.51	837.61	A:	[LABOV] Blood (( )).
838.60	841.35	A:	[LOUISE] Jimmy, when he was um, about four years old, wasn't he?
841.35	843.80	A:	[LOUISE] Just about four years old, he got hit with a car.
843.80	844.92	A:	[LOUISE] On Baxter. 
844.92	846.70	A:	[LOUISE] He -- uh, my brother, 
846.70	854.08	A:	[LOUISE] and uh he was holding his hand. And he seen his daddy in the door. We lived right across the street ((from his daddy)), and he br- broke lose from my brother,
854.08	859.61	A:	[LOUISE] and Charlie was just a baby. I had him and her by the hand. Had him in my arms and had her by the hand,
859.61	861.04	A:	[LOUISE] and my brother was holding Jimmy's 
861.04	864.83	A:	[LOUISE] hand, he broke lose from him and got hit with a car. On ((Baxter)) Avenue.
864.68	865.16	A:	[LABOV] Oh.
864.83	869.25	A:	[LOUISE] ((Split)) the whole back part of his head. And instead of me going to hospital, that kid -- if 
869.25	869.95	A:	[LOUISE] #Name_suppressed#
869.95	872.37	A:	[LOUISE] hadn't been standing over and taking these young ones to the hospital. 
872.37	875.29	A:	[LOUISE] I was going the opposite way. I run from anything like that.
875.29	876.59	A:	[LOUISE] Can't stand blood.
876.59	878.89	A:	[LOUISE] Can't stand to see nobody hurt. Nope.
878.89	885.45	A:	[LOUISE] I go the opposite way. Had her and Charlie and I was going -- I don't know where I was going, but when I got caught I was going.
885.45	887.42	A:	[LABOV] What happens when you got to get vaccinated?
887.42	888.61	A:	[LABOV] Stick needles in you.
888.51	892.78	A:	[LOUISE] Now I don't mind that. I can shut my eyes. It hurts just a minute. It's just blood.
892.78	896.46	A:	[LOUISE] I mean, I just uh -- If I stand and look at anything like that, 
896.46	900.17	A:	[LOUISE] uh, everything ((just)) turns dark to me. And I pass out. And I can't stand it.
900.17	902.63	A:	[LOUISE] I wouldn't make no nurse.
902.63	906.76	A:	[LOUISE] That's for sur -- Now, she can. She can doctor anything. I can't. I run.
906.76	910.71	A:	[LOUISE] My daughter-in-law is just like me. ((One of)) her kids gets hurt, she calls for Kay, 
910.71	911.63	A:	[LOUISE] come down there and look.
912.73	918.37	A:	[LABOV] Now, you were saying that when you go on vacations, uh, where did you go? to -- 
918.25	919.60	A:	[LOUISE] Oh, uh.
919.60	923.13	A:	[LOUISE] I don't (( )) ((go)) on vacations. I mean, uh.
923.13	924.96	A:	[LOUISE] We're we're tha- -- you know.
924.96	931.74	A:	[LOUISE] High ((racket)). We just go off on weekends. Oh, we just travel. North Carolina, Gatlinburg.
928.09	928.57	A:	[LABOV] (( ))
931.74	934.42	A:	[LOUISE] We've been to Virginia. Where have we been? Georgia?
934.42	937.52	A:	[LOUISE] Virginia, Kentucky.
937.52	940.11	A:	[LOUISE] You know, just right around here.
939.57	943.18	A:	[LABOV] Yeah. But now i- any uh ((people you have are)) big fishermen?
943.37	945.30	A:	[LOUISE] Yeah, they used to ((all)) be. Until 
945.30	945.81	A:	[LOUISE] #Name_suppressed#
945.81	946.23	A:	[LOUISE] died.
948.23	950.61	A:	[LOUISE] See, he is um -- yeah, they all went uh
950.61	951.54	A:	[LOUISE] fishing. 
951.54	954.77	A:	[LOUISE] Jimmy just now ((wanting)) getting the knack of it. Ain't nobody take him up on it.
956.45	961.64	A:	[LOUISE] I mean, they're not what you call big fishermans. They ((like go)) around these little old, like ((around)) Concord, or
961.64	965.15	A:	[LOUISE] you know, Tennessee River. Now they've done that ((and)) fished.
965.15	970.95	A:	[LOUISE] They like go hunting. Her husband does. And that youngest boy of mine, they like go out now hunt.
970.95	973.55	A:	[LOUISE] Like around, you know, Thanksgiving.
972.99	974.08	A:	[LABOV] S- -- squirrels?
973.55	975.11	A:	[LOUISE] Ah, ((th-)) rabbits.
975.11	978.24	A:	[LOUISE] Squirrels, too. Possums. Anything they can see.
977.66	978.14	A:	[LABOV] ((Really?))
978.24	980.92	A:	[LOUISE] Naw, they don't allow that here in Tennessee.
980.51	981.18	A:	[LABOV] Not all ((of them))?
980.92	984.46	A:	[LOUISE] You can't shoot -- you can't shoot deer here, can you. Can you?
984.46	987.07	A:	[LOUISE] I've heard -- I mean on ((Sun-))
987.07	988.39	A:	[LOUISE] Naw, they --
990.49	993.55	A:	[LOUISE] Yeah, uh uh, no, unless you're on somebody else's farm.
993.55	996.03	A:	[LOUISE] Yeah. ((Round))
996.03	1000.83	A:	[LOUISE] Thanksgiving. They usually go about Thanksgiving, (( )). Because I know every Thanksgiving morning, we get up, they're gone.
1000.83	1002.60	A:	[LOUISE] So it has to be Thanksgiving.
1002.60	1005.59	A:	[LOUISE] They go ((and you only)). Just kill maybe a rabbit or so.
1007.94	1010.55	A:	[LOUISE] Yeah, they have deer season down here, honey.
1010.55	1014.11	A:	[LOUISE] But I don't know where. I don't know when.
1013.51	1015.16	A:	[LABOV] You don't cook the fish ((when they bring them home))?
1014.11	1017.41	A:	[LOUISE] Nope. Mess with them. I don't eat fish.
1017.22	1017.81	A:	[LABOV] You don't?
1017.41	1018.92	A:	[LOUISE] Hm mm.
1018.92	1021.26	A:	[LOUISE] She was trying get me go Long John Silver's uh
1021.26	1024.07	A:	[LOUISE] That's true.
1024.07	1025.40	A:	[LOUISE] She likes goat meat.
1025.40	1029.14	A:	[LOUISE] Her daddy got a goat one time. I never will forget this. And he uh --
1029.14	1032.20	A:	[LOUISE] She was just about three or four years old, wasn't it? Maybe five.
1032.20	1034.53	A:	[LOUISE] Well, maybe.
1034.53	1037.51	A:	[LOUISE] Anyhow, you know how big a goat leg is.
1037.51	1042.30	A:	[LOUISE] That young one went round for three days eating on that goat leg. Her daddy killed the goat, you know fixed the meat?
1042.15	1042.53	A:	[LABOV] Yeah?
1042.30	1043.85	A:	[LOUISE] She loves goat meat.
1043.85	1047.06	A:	[LOUISE] Now me, I don't eat everything comes in the house. I'm funny.
1046.95	1048.27	A:	[LABOV] How about goat milk?
1049.12	1052.74	A:	[LOUISE] God, no. I tasted it one time. Lord, no.
1052.74	1056.31	A:	[LOUISE] Don't like it. Just plain old cow's milk. It's all I like.
1056.31	1060.42	A:	[LOUISE] Now I can drink that powdered milk. Now, once and a while if you fix that right, that's okay.
1060.42	1062.37	A:	[LOUISE] I used to live on that.
1062.37	1065.88	A:	[LOUISE] Yeah. Back when I was growing up. Powdered milk.
1062.43	1062.91	A:	[LABOV] Yeah.
1065.88	1067.17	A:	[LOUISE] ((You know, ol-)) --
1067.17	1074.22	A:	[LOUISE] Course then you could get milk reasonable. Eggs reasonable. You know, back then you get cigarettes about fifteen, twenty cents. Everything was reasonable.
1076.34	1080.89	A:	[LOUISE] ((Now, that)) there's one. She had to go to work when she was sixteen, help me raise the kids.
1080.89	1084.61	A:	[LOUISE] See, we've always just been a -- I raised my kids like I was raised.
1084.61	1088.13	A:	[LOUISE] Close-knit. Now, they got their tempers, and they got that, but
1088.13	1091.70	A:	[LOUISE] just like I said, no matter how much we argue amongst ourselves, 
1091.70	1095.12	A:	[LOUISE] it comes down to one of us is in trouble, the rest of us ((round to help)).
1095.12	1098.82	A:	[LOUISE] Now that's the way we -- that's the way I was raised, that's the way I raised my kids.
1099.54	1105.76	A:	[LABOV] Well, now were you ever in a spot yourself where you thought you actually in danger of getting killed? Where you thought might ((have lost your life))?
1106.70	1108.14	A:	[LOUISE] D- ah, yes, Jim. 
1108.14	1108.93	A:	[LOUISE] Just Jimmy.
1108.93	1111.54	A:	[LOUISE] I mean, really, I thought the kid was dead.
1111.54	1117.41	A:	[LOUISE] You think about something when he got hit with that car. Because his eyes was set in his head and it was open.
1117.41	1121.33	A:	[LOUISE] And it did scare me. That's the reason why I think majority I ran from him.
1121.33	1123.07	A:	[LOUISE] I thought he was already gone.
1122.82	1124.17	A:	[LABOV] Nothing ever happened to you.
1123.07	1124.72	A:	[LOUISE] No.
1124.84	1126.01	A:	[LABOV] Did you ever learn to swim?
1126.14	1128.55	A:	[LOUISE] No. I'm afraid of water and I ain't going in it.
1128.55	1130.59	A:	[LOUISE] No, I don't swim.
1130.59	1135.02	A:	[LOUISE] Now my -- all my kids go to water, but not me. Even my grandkids likes water.
1135.02	1136.60	A:	[LOUISE] But you don't get me out in no water.
1136.60	1140.96	A:	[LOUISE] They took me down to Florida, my niece and nephew did one time, and
1140.96	1145.37	A:	[LOUISE] had me standing down there and they was trying to get me out there, you know where those waves comes in?
1144.47	1145.76	A:	[LABOV] Yeah. Uh-huh.
1145.37	1151.37	A:	[LOUISE] I told them no way. Boy, they g- -- one of them grabbed me, when they did, it went up against me and like push me right on out there and C- -- 
1151.37	1153.70	A:	[LOUISE] Caroline grabbed me, and she said uh Louise, 
1153.70	1159.62	A:	[LOUISE] she said, you go when I said, yep, just about it. She said, we ain't going to let you go. Said, we just want to see if you go out there. I'm scared of that.q
1159.44	1159.92	A:	[LABOV] Uh-huh.
1159.62	1163.71	A:	[LOUISE] I'm actually -- and especially next to ocean like that. That just scares the devil out of me.
1163.71	1166.29	A:	[LOUISE] Then those uh guys were out there um
1166.29	1167.38	A:	[LOUISE] surfing.
1167.38	1175.80	A:	[LOUISE] And it was dark. I mean they stayed ((in there)) and it got dark, watching them. And I don't see how in name of God those boys could have see out there, as dark as that sea looked, and
1175.80	1178.84	A:	[LOUISE] I reckon it's (( )) that ocean down next to Pensacola.
1178.84	1180.40	A:	[LOUISE] The ocean?
1180.40	1182.68	A:	[LOUISE] I mean, you know, as ((far)) as you can see --
1181.45	1182.87	A:	[LABOV] (( )) Gulf of Mexico.
1182.68	1185.35	A:	[LOUISE] Well, as far as you could see, it was nothing but water.
1185.35	1188.97	A:	[LOUISE] And I don't see how those guys got out there and did that. Really.
1188.97	1190.94	A:	[LOUISE] It scared me just to watch them.
1190.94	1192.74	A:	[LABOV] What about flying? ((Will you get)) in an airplane?
1192.47	1194.35	A:	[LOUISE] Mm mm. No way. Uh-uh.
1194.35	1195.46	A:	[LOUISE] Nope.
1195.46	1199.87	A:	[LOUISE] I z- I went to see Charlie off. They let him come in when my nephew got killed.
1199.87	1202.29	A:	[LOUISE] And uh he flew in.
1202.29	1204.44	A:	[LOUISE] And he had to fly back to Vietnam, you know.
1204.44	1208.08	A:	[LOUISE] So uh they gave him thirty days, you know, after they flew him up here.
1208.08	1217.92	A:	[LOUISE] So uh I went out there, and that there a pilot said, I'll tell you what, says uh, I'll take you back, won't cost you nothing. I said, one foot on the ground, one in there, I'll go. He said, no way. I said, I'll stay.
1217.92	1221.10	A:	[LOUISE] I said, I hate to see my young one go, but ain't no way I can go with him. 
1221.10	1222.97	A:	[LOUISE] Charlie told him I ((was)) scared.
1222.97	1225.34	A:	[LOUISE] I am, I'm sca- -- Scared of heights. 
1225.34	1227.12	A:	[LOUISE] I can just walk over like um
1227.12	1229.40	A:	[LABOV] But you know, a car is the most dangerous thing you can get into.
1229.24	1231.40	A:	[LOUISE] You know, I know it, but I ain't afraid of a car?
1231.40	1233.61	A:	[LOUISE] That's the truth. I'm afraid of um
1233.61	1234.90	A:	[LOUISE] airplanes.
1234.90	1237.65	A:	[LOUISE] I'm afraid of boats. You ain't going to get me on no boat.
1237.65	1240.54	A:	[LOUISE] You ain't going to get me on no airplane. And you ain't going to get me in no water.
1240.54	1245.26	A:	[LOUISE] So I guess I have got my own uh hangups about things.
1245.11	1246.99	A:	[LABOV] Most dangerous animal is people.
1246.99	1248.08	A:	[LABOV] They say.
1246.99	1247.77	A:	[LOUISE] Yep.
1247.77	1251.40	A:	[LOUISE] They say a car is dangerous, but I'll take my chances. You can live in a car.
1251.40	1255.32	A:	[LOUISE] Once in a while. But boy, that's a long ways to drop down here from up there.
1255.32	1259.23	A:	[LOUISE] Think of it that way. And if you're on water, you got to go down that way, too.
1259.23	1261.61	A:	[LOUISE] So, really.
1261.61	1264.81	A:	[LOUISE] I been in car wrecks, ((though)). But it don't scare me.
1264.57	1265.31	A:	[LABOV] You have been?
1264.81	1265.68	A:	[LOUISE] Yeah.
1265.68	1267.54	A:	[LOUISE] I was in one with my sister-in-law.
1267.33	1268.15	A:	[LABOV] What happened?
1267.54	1272.90	A:	[LOUISE] Just shook me up, is all. Didn't even go to doctor. Should've have, but I did- -- Should have c-
1271.83	1273.34	A:	[LABOV] Did you see it coming? (( ))
1272.90	1274.11	A:	[LOUISE] No.
1274.11	1275.64	A:	[LOUISE] ((It was on us)) before we knew it.
1275.64	1280.24	A:	[LOUISE] Is a woman behind us (( )). She is arguing with a little girl, is what she told policeman.
1280.24	1284.17	A:	[LOUISE] Wasn't watching where she is going. Boy, she *pucked right into Charlotte's car.
1284.17	1286.62	A:	[LOUISE] My head went one way, and it came way back.
1286.62	1289.29	A:	[LOUISE] Now, I ain't going to tell you I wasn't sore for a week or so, but --
1289.80	1291.32	A:	[LABOV] Well,
1291.32	1296.96	A:	[LABOV] (( )) ((what are the neighbor -- hood like around here)). Do -- do people really get together and help each other out?
1296.85	1297.73	A:	[LOUISE] Yep.
1297.73	1300.34	A:	[LOUISE] Back when I was growing -- You mean back when I was growing up?
1300.34	1302.00	A:	[LABOV] Yeah, um, today, too.
1302.22	1305.88	A:	[LOUISE] Well, now, today, no, it's a whole different neighborhood. See, I --
1305.88	1308.70	A:	[LOUISE] was raised in here a little bit too.
1308.70	1313.60	A:	[LOUISE] ((Now see,)) I was about fourteen, fifteen when we moved over right here in this section, right here where I'm living now.
1313.60	1318.99	A:	[LOUISE] Now back when uh -- like when Daddy died, yep, people were. They would come in. They'd help you.
1318.99	1320.34	A:	[LOUISE] And uh.
1320.34	1323.24	A:	[LOUISE] I mean, if you (( )) sickness in a family, you'd go and sit up.
1323.24	1330.39	A:	[LOUISE] You'd help them. I mean, you know, ((they want to)) be neighbors. No, today it's changed. ((I'll have to say it and tell the truth)), people seem like they don't care any more.
1330.39	1336.38	A:	[LOUISE] I mean, it's been a lot of us, you know, that's -- was raised here for years and year. We talked about, you know, how people used to be here?
1336.38	1337.93	A:	[LOUISE] They're not like that no more.
1337.93	1341.48	A:	[LOUISE] I mean, you can get sick. Nobody says, well, how are you, or
1341.48	1343.34	A:	[LOUISE] nothing. I -- yeah, you can see a change.
1343.34	1344.99	A:	[LOUISE] You can really see a change.
1344.99	1349.64	A:	[LOUISE] It's not like it used to be at all. Or like in death, why, you know people would come, and
1349.64	1352.63	A:	[LOUISE] sit up all night with you. No more.
1352.63	1358.63	A:	[LOUISE] Because i- -- only a case of it happen just not too long ago, right down here, ((to)) lady that's up there in age, Miss 
1358.63	1359.31	A:	[LOUISE] #Name_suppressed#
1359.31	1361.25	A:	[LOUISE] I've knowed her for years and years.
1361.25	1365.98	A:	[LOUISE] And her kids was the only ones sitting up over there, and me and my sister-in-law went over there and we stayed with them one night. 
1365.98	1368.38	A:	[LOUISE] Me and her daughter was talking about it.
1368.38	1372.90	A:	[LOUISE] She said, boy, this ain't like it used to be, is it? I used to run around with her daughter back when we was kids.
1372.90	1374.34	A:	[LOUISE] I said, nope. I said, Ruth, 
1374.34	1378.63	A:	[LOUISE] it's not. I said, everything has changed. I said, used to, this house had been piled.
1378.63	1382.49	A:	[LOUISE] People bringing coffee. You know, just people want to help people.
1382.49	1387.77	A:	[LOUISE] Naw, it's changed. I mean, seem like everybody is for theirself, though maybe that's m- way I look at it now. 
1387.77	1389.50	A:	[LOUISE] I don't have anybody else look at it.
1389.50	1393.05	A:	[LOUISE] I don't do like I used to do when I was younger either.
1389.60	1390.42	A:	[LABOV] Well, you have any f- --
1393.05	1395.58	A:	[LOUISE] I don't go out and visit the sick or
1395.58	1403.16	A:	[LOUISE] I'm -- I don't know. I reckon older you get, it's just a dread to go to funeral homes seeing somebody you run around with or somebody you've known dead.
1403.16	1405.63	A:	[LOUISE] I don't do like I used to do either.
1405.63	1409.04	A:	[LOUISE] So really, I imagine people just changes. I don't know.
1409.04	1413.15	A:	[LABOV] Well, do people get together uh, like is there a card game that you have around here? (( ))
1413.15	1417.61	A:	[LOUISE] Not around here in this neighborhood. They ain't even sociable. No.
1417.36	1418.77	A:	[LABOV] Well, like (( ))
1417.61	1418.81	A:	[LOUISE] It's different.
1418.81	1420.33	A:	[LOUISE] Naw.
1420.33	1426.11	A:	[LOUISE] Now my pl- son once and while throws a party down there, but that's just for friends he knows. ((And)) ain't none of them live here.
1426.11	1428.38	A:	[LOUISE] I mean, just like the neighborhood and all.
1429.94	1431.96	A:	[LOUISE] They're all different. Everybody is different.
1431.96	1432.92	A:	[LOUISE] You know.
1432.79	1438.12	A:	[LABOV] Well, people here ((are not)) so different, you know. They're mostly all Baptists round here, ((aren't they)). And uh.
1432.92	1433.91	A:	[LOUISE] (( ))
1438.12	1440.43	A:	[LABOV] Same -- same ((stock)).
1440.46	1446.21	A:	[LOUISE] No, ((it)) about -- I mean, I guess every church around here is equal. That's a Catholic church right over there.
1450.03	1454.68	A:	[LOUISE] I guess it's about equal, though. About Baptist ((is)). ((Now)) I was raised up Baptist.
1454.68	1463.73	A:	[LOUISE] Baptists went through the whole generation. I re- r- uh -- Baptist and Republican. Everybody f- -- makes fun of me because I say that, but that's the way I was born, that's the way I'm going to be. I'm honest.
1463.73	1468.38	A:	[LOUISE] And every one of my kids turn back. Now, their daddy was a Democrat. My daddy was Democrat.