8.41 11.17 A: [LOUISE] years old 11.17 14.33 A: [LOUISE] I think it's uh -- oh yeah. 14.33 21.51 A: [LOUISE] Uh, her boy broke my s- uh broke Jimmy's guitar. I worked like the devil and got that guitar. Little old toy guitar, naturally. 21.51 25.10 A: [LOUISE] And Jimmy went over there, and sh- -- I think he picked up one of her kids' toys. 25.10 27.70 A: [LOUISE] Her name was Francis Brian. I won't even forget her. 27.70 30.62 A: [LOUISE] Her name anyhow. Her boy, Roy, 30.62 36.04 A: [LOUISE] was a great old big chunky +looking boy, I mean, he would make Jimmy look sick back then. Jimmy is tall and slender. 36.04 37.57 A: [LOUISE] And um. 37.57 39.74 A: [LOUISE] She grabbed it away from him. 39.74 41.99 A: [LOUISE] Jimmy. When she did, I went in to her, 41.99 47.62 A: [LOUISE] ((and)) it was after that we became number one enemies. And you know, to the day, she just lives right about three or four blocks away from here. 47.62 49.88 A: [LOUISE] She walks right down through here, and I ain't even spoke to her. 49.88 52.24 A: [LOUISE] And that's been about twenty years ago. 52.24 54.30 A: [LABOV] What happened when you run into her? 54.30 58.63 A: [LOUISE] I just whupped her. That's it, buddy. You don't -- you don't snatch nothing hurt one of my kids. 58.63 60.23 A: [LOUISE] And like I told you, 60.23 65.37 A: [LOUISE] I had a hard time raising those kids. And those are my kids. If they don't do anything to anybody, I don't want them touch them. 65.37 68.40 A: [LOUISE] I mean, that's the way I felt about them, like an old mother hen. 68.40 70.89 A: [LOUISE] Get with my young one, ((you got)) your momma. 70.89 73.23 A: [LOUISE] Momma is right there on top of you. 73.23 75.88 A: [LOUISE] Course, see, I was the only one, really, to 75.88 85.74 A: [LOUISE] you know, really protect my kids. S- ((all you ever)) -- Everybody knew Elvin drank. I mean, you can go out and you just ask anybody -- o- -- ol- -- older people, I mean. Not the younger ones, but the older ones. 85.74 86.52 A: [LOUISE] And they'll tell you about 86.52 87.36 A: [LOUISE] #Name_suppressed# 87.36 88.23 A: [LOUISE] The sign painter? 88.23 89.74 A: [LOUISE] They can tell you how he drunk. 89.74 92.20 A: [LOUISE] E- -- I mean, anybody that no- -- really knew him, they can tell you. 92.20 93.70 A: [LABOV] He really did the job, eh? 93.52 94.71 A: [LOUISE] Yep. He did it. 93.70 95.05 A: [LABOV] ((He)) really drank. 94.71 97.11 A: [LOUISE] Yeah, we always called him the town drunkard. 97.11 100.30 A: [LOUISE] You know there's always one in town? He was the one this town. 100.30 104.33 A: [LOUISE] Yep. He lost his job. But he would, you know, ((paint)) on his own. 104.33 106.21 A: [LOUISE] Just like I said, he wasn't a bum. 106.21 111.45 A: [LOUISE] I mean, he would get out and he would paint signs, but he would take it right up beer joint, whiskey store. 111.45 115.49 A: [LOUISE] I never will forget what he got from whiskey tor- -- stores. His Thunderbird and um 115.49 116.61 A: [LOUISE] um 116.61 118.06 A: [LOUISE] Four Roses. 118.06 119.60 A: [LABOV] Well, we just found a -- 119.60 122.74 A: [LOUISE] Oh lordy, I've had them throw them things out more than anybody. 122.74 128.79 A: [LOUISE] Those -- We was here talking the other day, and Jimmy got tickled. He said Momma, I got m- -- he got him a new ((bar)) put in his house. 128.79 134.00 A: [LOUISE] He said, I think I'll get -- go down here and get me some Thunderbird and Four Roses. Th- -- that would be to represent my daddy. 134.00 138.06 A: [LOUISE] Said it over here. I said, Jimmy, you wouldn't. He said, yep, he w- will. 138.06 140.85 A: [LOUISE] He said, I've seen so many of those bottles in my lifetime. 140.85 145.56 A: [LOUISE] I mean, you know those long tall green ones. That was Thunderbird. And the other ones was Four Roses. 145.56 147.62 A: [LOUISE] Yep, that's what he drunk. 147.62 153.02 A: [LOUISE] Then he got where he'd uh even -- I got Charlie some cologne. 153.02 155.44 A: [LOUISE] I think it's cologne for his birthday. 155.44 160.76 A: [LOUISE] January. Charlie went in one day, and caught him drinking that. Boy, I'm telling you that young one, he hit the ceiling. 160.76 164.18 A: [LOUISE] He got mad at his daddy. I believe he would have been a little bit bigger, he would have whupped him. 164.18 170.12 A: [LOUISE] But he was j- -- you know, as I told you, just about fifteen, sixteen years old. He started growing after he got out service. 170.12 172.48 A: [LOUISE] He stands about six two, six three now. 172.48 174.35 A: [LOUISE] But, boy, I mean, 174.35 176.78 A: [LOUISE] I mean, Elvin just got, you know, he just 176.78 179.30 A: [LOUISE] give up or something. He just didn't care. 179.30 188.86 A: [LOUISE] Drink anything. Kids -- we would miss stuff. I mean, I missed more watches and rings the kids bought me. Where I know he has took it out, gave it to somebody for a bottle. 188.86 192.48 A: [LOUISE] Why, common sense is going tell you he did it. He is only one in house that's steal. 192.48 196.04 A: [LOUISE] I mean, he didn't s- -- I don't reckon he thought he stealing because, you know, 196.04 199.85 A: [LOUISE] he was their daddy, and I was supposed to be his ex-wife, you know, and so 199.85 203.93 A: [LOUISE] he just took our stuff and went. The kids got me an awful pretty ((set)) for -- 203.93 206.57 A: [LOUISE] It was um birthstone and uh -- 206.57 209.39 A: [LOUISE] The watch had birthstones in it. 209.39 210.66 A: [LOUISE] Side of it. 210.66 218.37 A: [LOUISE] I laid it up on side of the mantle. I come in from wrestling one night, and I just laid it up on the mantle and went to bed. Got up next morning, my ring, my watch was gone. 218.37 225.55 A: [LOUISE] And it wasn't a soul in that house but me and the kids, and I got up before the kids did, so he was only one gone, so you know who took my watch and my ring. 225.55 232.31 A: [LOUISE] But you asked him -- until the day he died, I asked him what he ever did with it. I wanted go get it, really. You know, pay the guy for what it cost to get my watch and ring back. 232.31 236.12 A: [LOUISE] You know, he is told me ((he li- )) -- right to the very finish he said I didn't get them. 236.12 240.19 A: [LOUISE] And he was only one in there to get them, because h- there wasn't another soul in the house. 240.19 242.05 A: [LOUISE] And it was gone when I got up. 243.14 245.81 A: [LABOV] Yeah, well, things reach a stage ((and even in this)) (( )) he 245.81 247.83 A: [LOUISE] He took it. He had to. 247.83 251.01 A: [LOUISE] ((Course)) that oldest boy of mine, right after him and Betty got married, 251.01 256.74 A: [LOUISE] why, he would have to go and catch his daddy taking his stuff off, getting ready to pawn it. He would run him down and make him give it back to him. 256.74 260.27 A: [LOUISE] He said, won't you ask me for the money to get that stuff, ((will you)) quit stealing from ((me)). 260.27 266.64 A: [LOUISE] He said, I would give it to you. He said, I know you're going to drink rest of your life anyhow. And he said, I would give you the money. See, he was married then and working. 266.64 269.86 A: [LOUISE] He said, don't steal nothing from me, Dad. Said, just ask me for the money. 269.86 274.22 A: [LOUISE] ((From now on out,)) said, just -- I would rather (( )) for you to hit me than steal from me. 274.22 275.49 A: [LOUISE] He said, I can't take it. 275.49 280.36 A: [LOUISE] And you know when (( )) some guy broke -- uh we don't know who -- I -- we said some guy, well, had to be a guy. 280.36 282.01 A: [LOUISE] Because Lord, he had one of them big old -- 282.01 284.18 A: [LOUISE] Well, he has still got one in place, though, it's um 284.18 286.12 A: [LOUISE] these big old ~TVs, consoles? 286.12 286.71 A: [LABOV] Yeah. 286.71 287.38 A: [LOUISE] And uh 287.38 291.96 A: [LOUISE] they walked right out this front door in broad daylight with it. Neighborhood watched him, nobody seen him. 295.13 300.87 A: [LOUISE] Once in a while we all go up, you know, and not that much, and we always leave (( )) in here, and we got um 300.87 303.55 A: [LOUISE] bigger dog we put out on back porch. 307.31 312.08 A: [LOUISE] I said, you have to protect your house somehow or other. You just can't go around here buying stuff for uh 312.08 313.10 A: [LOUISE] you know 313.10 315.81 A: [LOUISE] people to take away from you. 315.81 320.37 A: [LOUISE] It's hard enough. I mean, now if you was a ((rogue)) yourself, it would be different, my Lord. 320.37 323.85 A: [LOUISE] See, how was it -- my boy put it to that t- -- 323.85 328.01 A: [LOUISE] to them *policemens. They come out here, he said, I worked my tail off 328.01 330.00 A: [LOUISE] to make the money to buy 330.00 332.98 A: [LOUISE] ((they sit on theirs)) and comes over here and takes it. 332.98 339.96 A: [LOUISE] That's the way he put it to -- And he said, you better get them before I find out ye- -- kid ain't never found out who got his ~TVs. 339.96 343.80 A: [LOUISE] Not to the day, that child has not found out who has got his ~TVs. 343.80 344.13 A: [LABOV] Ah. 344.13 346.65 A: [LOUISE] He has had go around, buy the whole thing over again. 346.65 354.70 A: [LOUISE] Yeah, da- da- that kid don- -- he got married when he was real young, Jim did. I mean, Jimmy was just about fifteen, sixteen when he got married. 354.70 356.33 A: [LABOV] ((Well)) what is his wife's name? 354.70 356.33 A: [LOUISE] And uh -- 356.33 357.74 A: [LOUISE] Betty. 357.74 358.95 A: [LOUISE] And uh -- 358.95 364.90 A: [LOUISE] So uh he has. Now, I have ((to set and)) tell truth. That kid has worked for everything he has got. 364.90 368.53 A: [LOUISE] And I mean, you know, he has had to work up to what he is up to today. 368.53 372.15 A: [LOUISE] Had to prove hisself that he is capable and trusty. 372.15 374.44 A: [LOUISE] You know, to get where he is today. 374.44 379.47 A: [LOUISE] And h- -- I guess it does make you feel bad try have something, and get your wife and kids in something they appreciate. 379.47 381.83 A: [LOUISE] Somebody come ((walk)) it out the door. Now that's -- 381.83 383.29 A: [LOUISE] That ain't no good feeling. 383.29 386.19 A: [LOUISE] See, he only got the kids their colored ~TV for Christmas. 386.19 386.73 A: [LABOV] Oh. 386.73 390.39 A: [LOUISE] And Betty's was for their anniversary. One of them is just (( )) ((too)). 390.39 396.43 A: [LOUISE] He said they got stoled out in this month, last year. It's been over a year since them two ~TVs walked out this door. 396.43 399.53 A: [LABOV] We- -- Do -- do uh Jim and uh uh -- Betty go places together? 399.53 400.26 A: [LOUISE] Yeah. 401.40 403.46 A: [LOUISE] Yeah, they go nightclubs. 405.36 406.81 A: [LABOV] They -- they get on pretty good, eh. 406.81 407.99 A: [LOUISE] Yeah. 407.99 410.91 A: [LOUISE] Yeah, they been together going on twelve years, so pretty good. 410.91 416.28 A: [LOUISE] And Kay and Dennis, they get along pretty good. Course ((hir-)) -- everybody has their ups and downs. I mean, little arguments, but 416.28 418.03 A: [LOUISE] what I mean nothing serious. 418.03 423.27 A: [LOUISE] Me and Charlie, my ol- youngest b- , we have our ups and down. We ((fuss)) twenty-four hours a day. 423.27 430.49 A: [LOUISE] Somebody -- my sister-in-law told me the other day, said, Charlie don't need no wife. Said he has got you, Louise. Says long as you'll fuss with him, that's all he needs. 430.49 433.24 A: [LOUISE] But it's the truth. Me and him, we'll get ((into a)) -- 433.24 438.92 A: [LOUISE] Charlie is -- I don't know. He gets on my nerves. Lot of things. I don- -- I -- maybe I'm getting old. 438.92 444.22 A: [LOUISE] I told Kay though. I got up last night. I don't feel good ((anyhow)). For last two three weeks, I have not felt a bit good. 443.91 444.49 A: [LABOV] ((Oh really? What's wr- --)) 444.22 447.37 A: [LOUISE] Me and him gets into it. And his old car goes down, he is ill. 447.37 450.45 A: [LOUISE] And that's his van out there, and it just won't go nowheres. 450.45 452.14 A: [LOUISE] And uh 452.14 459.72 A: [LOUISE] he is uh has to have somebody t- get h- come and get him, you know, and take him to work, bring him home, and he don't like it. He don't ((like to bi- --)) he don't like to ask nobody no favors at all. 459.72 463.61 A: [LOUISE] He is really wants to be self -- you know, 463.61 467.05 A: [LOUISE] he don't like to ask no favors from nobody. 467.05 472.39 A: [LOUISE] ((It's)) real funny. He won't go nowheres unless he has got money pay his own way. Don't care if they promised to pay it. He won't go. 472.39 474.45 A: [LOUISE] He just funny like that. 474.45 476.35 A: [LOUISE] And uh we get into it. 476.35 478.42 A: [LOUISE] ((Lots)). We just argue. 478.42 481.11 A: [LOUISE] So my sister-in-law was up here the other night. 481.11 483.42 A: [LOUISE] He said something to me, and I come back at him. 483.42 489.47 A: [LOUISE] And uh she said, boy, Charlie don't need no wife. Said with you and a wife, said he couldn't take it. Said poor kid would die. 489.47 494.52 A: [LOUISE] Charlie said that's reason why I don't get married. Said I'm afraid I'll get somebody like Momma. 494.52 496.36 A: [LABOV] Uh-huh. He's twenty-five now? 496.36 499.13 A: [LOUISE] He is twenty-five. Be twenty-six in January, (( )). 498.76 501.43 A: [LABOV] He is going to get married again. I'm sure ((he could try to)) (( )). 500.31 503.74 A: [LOUISE] I d- -- Ah, he is dating a right cute little old girl right now, but 503.74 506.15 A: [LOUISE] ((they)) don't last long. I mean, 506.15 508.74 A: [LOUISE] (( )) neither one of his wives wasn't bad looking girls. 508.74 513.42 A: [LOUISE] As far as that go. Even that little girl in +Vietnam Vietnam, she is cute as she can be, but 513.42 514.94 A: [LOUISE] it just him. 514.94 520.18 A: [LOUISE] He might now when he gets older, he might settle down. I ain't going to say he won't. I wished he would. 520.18 523.99 A: [LOUISE] Maybe he would quit being so cotton-picking hateful. Because he is real ill. 523.99 526.09 A: [LOUISE] He is. He is really a ill type. 526.09 529.04 A: [LOUISE] And he can (( )) lose a whole lot of sleep, and God, he is murder. 529.04 532.04 A: [LOUISE] My brother and his wife went to Michigan. 532.04 534.30 A: [LOUISE] My son took me as far as Indiana. 534.30 538.52 A: [LOUISE] And then took ((more)) (( )) ((Louisville)) and let him catch a bus there up to Holland, Michigan. 538.52 541.45 A: [LOUISE] That's where my sister-in-law is from. And her people. 541.45 548.75 A: [LOUISE] So they're going stay up there, you know, and come b- -- catch a bus and come back to Louisville, and Jimmy is supposed to pick them and bring them on back to Knoxville when he comes in Friday. 548.75 551.30 A: [LOUISE] And uh 551.30 560.51 A: [LOUISE] I told Jimmy, I said, Charlie goes on vacation week after next. I said you can take him up there and keep him all week, and I said that's going to be one good week me to rest then. He said you want me to? I said yeah. 560.51 565.98 A: [LOUISE] So he say he is going back with him. I hope he goes up there and sleeps his -- self to death. 565.98 570.12 A: [LOUISE] Just you know, just get out and run around Jimmy, (( )) Jimmy gets off from work, and sleep all day. 570.12 573.21 A: [LOUISE] Because see, the company up there, they got apartment for him. 573.03 573.72 A: [LABOV] ((Oh yeah.)) 573.57 576.13 A: [LOUISE] See, they pay for the apartment for Jimmy sleep -- stay in. 576.13 578.62 A: [LOUISE] Because uh Jimmy just tol- -- 577.62 578.62 A: [LABOV] How far is that? 578.62 579.82 A: [LOUISE] New Albany. 579.70 580.22 A: [LABOV] Yeah. 579.82 581.70 A: [LOUISE] About four hundred, five hundred miles away from here, isn't it? 581.60 582.10 A: [LABOV] Oh. 582.37 585.34 A: [LOUISE] You go across the bridge I think uh 585.34 586.79 A: [LOUISE] t- -- into Louisville, Kentucky. 586.79 588.48 A: [LOUISE] I mean, you know, 588.48 588.94 A: [LABOV] Oh, I see. 588.94 592.57 A: [LOUISE] he did live up there. Now, him and Betty went up there, but Betty don't like Kentucky, so 592.57 598.09 A: [LOUISE] she come back -- he moved her back down here. They lived in Louisville for a while last year. Two or three months. 598.09 598.46 A: [LABOV] Uh-huh. 598.46 603.26 A: [LOUISE] You know. And I think you just go over the bridge to Louisville from where he works. He ((just)) works in New Albany, and then 603.26 607.83 A: [LOUISE] When he -- I went up there and stayed a week with him, and uh way he took us is over a bridge. 609.24 610.59 A: [LOUISE] And you go in uh 610.59 612.26 A: [LOUISE] you know, New Albany. 612.26 614.54 A: [LOUISE] Then ((pop)) back over that bridge, and you're in Louisville. 614.54 615.52 A: [LOUISE] I mean, it just 615.52 620.24 A: [LOUISE] You just g- -- in middle of bridge somewheres there is where you -- Kentucky and Indiana meets. 621.77 629.77 A: [LABOV] Huh. Uh, you know, before I ((forget)). When I listen back sometimes ((to)) people in this part of the country, ((I hear)) lots of things I don't quite understand, because we talk ((real)) different. 629.02 629.57 A: [LOUISE] Yeah. 629.77 636.21 A: [LABOV] And I wanted to ask you about something. (( )) ((call and)) say, well, service is pretty bad around here anymore. 637.19 638.52 A: [LABOV] What does he mean by that? 639.83 641.06 A: [LOUISE] I don't know. 640.50 646.84 A: [LABOV] ((You mean)) that it used to be bad and now it's good, or it -- it -- it -- it used to be good and now it's bad? 646.84 649.79 A: [LOUISE] Probably. It's according to who uh I mean, you know. 649.65 651.98 A: [LABOV] ((Would you say)) service is pretty bad around here anymore? 652.31 653.62 A: [LOUISE] Now I don't know. 652.96 654.10 A: [LABOV] That's not natural to you? 654.10 654.71 A: [LOUISE] No. 654.71 657.38 A: [LOUISE] Nobody ((I ever)) talked to talks like this. 657.38 659.26 A: [LOUISE] Not right here. 659.26 660.56 A: [LABOV] You would say um 660.56 663.00 A: [LABOV] ((Would you)) say ((though, why)) anymore I don't do that? 663.00 664.72 A: [LABOV] That sound natural to you? 665.62 669.48 A: [LOUISE] Eh -- I mean, I have heard them say it on ~TV and say they heard it from the south, but 669.48 671.69 A: [LOUISE] not really, not fr- -- not -- I haven't. 671.69 672.29 A: [LOUISE] I mean. 671.93 673.82 A: [LABOV] You think of yourself as a Southerner? 673.82 676.96 A: [LOUISE] Yeah, I guess I am. I was born and raised here, so I am. Proud of it. 678.61 682.75 A: [LOUISE] I guess I -- I don't know, I just the type that's just Tennessee girl. 682.75 686.84 A: [LOUISE] As my uh momma use- -- uh my daddy used to tell Momma, said you can 686.84 692.90 A: [LOUISE] take uh uh -- Now how is it? You can take a woman out of the Tennessee, but you can't take Tennessee out of a woman. I said, there you go. 692.90 699.37 A: [LABOV] I always -- listening back to some of these -- I scribbled down some words. ((Wait)) I -- I jotted down (( )). 703.62 704.80 A: [LOUISE] Jacqueline. 708.36 711.10 A: [LOUISE] Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. 724.26 733.24 A: [LOUISE] (( )) 735.89 737.12 A: [LOUISE] Ah, ah. 752.53 754.27 A: [LOUISE] Aw, Jacky, honey. 756.96 758.27 A: [LABOV] That's a good dog. 760.58 764.81 A: [LABOV] I wrote down some words that I was listening to that were said a little bit differently 764.81 765.44 A: [LABOV] round 765.44 768.76 A: [LABOV] round here, and I was wondering if you could do me a favor 768.76 770.04 A: [LABOV] and just 770.04 774.52 A: [LABOV] you know, h- -- how do you say -- read off those couple words there. 774.52 777.32 A: [LOUISE] For, far, morning. 777.32 780.63 A: [LOUISE] I ain't got my glasses on. Morning? Is that it? 780.63 781.32 A: [LABOV] Yeah. 781.32 783.14 A: [LOUISE] Witch, which. 783.14 786.79 A: [LOUISE] (( )), ((cord)), feel, fill, fool, ((foul)) 786.79 787.93 A: [LABOV] Go ahead, yeah. 787.82 790.12 A: [LOUISE] Pool, pull, pill. 790.12 793.86 A: [LOUISE] Peel, sight, side, ((tire)), tear, fair. 793.86 794.80 A: [LOUISE] Fire. 794.63 796.42 A: [LABOV] Now, wait, how about 796.42 798.55 A: [LABOV] this bunch here. 798.86 801.31 A: [LOUISE] Let's see. Bait, bad, back. 801.31 803.32 A: [LOUISE] Bag, ((paste)), ((chase)). 802.47 806.27 A: [LABOV] Wa- wait ((till)) car goes by ((a bit)), then start over again. Uh, okay. 806.27 807.36 A: [LABOV] Re- -- read them there. 807.36 814.14 A: [LOUISE] Bait, bad, back, bag, ((pace)), cash, brace, ash. Ashes, rather. Man, 814.14 815.48 A: [LOUISE] ((can't)). 815.48 817.36 A: [LOUISE] Mm ne- mm. 816.49 817.36 A: [LABOV] Tin can. 817.36 820.27 A: [LOUISE] Eh, tin can. I ain't got my glasses on. 820.27 822.72 A: [LOUISE] Tin can, he can. 820.27 822.72 A: [LABOV] That's better than I can do without my glasses. 822.72 824.82 A: [LOUISE] Bang, ham, planet. 824.82 826.34 A: [LOUISE] Manage. 826.34 828.59 A: [LOUISE] Ran, swam. 828.59 830.19 A: [LOUISE] What is that, ((bean))? 829.70 830.37 A: [LABOV] Began. 830.19 833.39 A: [LOUISE] Begin, bath, half, ((ain't)), and life. 833.39 835.39 A: [LABOV] (( )) Go ahead. Here's just a couple more. 835.39 837.45 A: [LABOV] You read a lot better without your glasses than I do. 837.45 839.41 A: [LOUISE] I can't see nothing without my glasses. 839.19 839.91 A: [LABOV] Yeah. 840.22 841.40 A: [LOUISE] Let's see. 840.82 841.40 A: [LABOV] Annie. 841.40 844.91 A: [LOUISE] Annie, master, plaster, faster, bags. 844.91 847.95 A: [LOUISE] Tags, mad, bad, sad, glad. 847.95 849.80 A: [LOUISE] Avenu- -- I reckon that's avenue, isn't it? 849.60 850.09 A: [LABOV] Yeah. 850.09 851.77 A: [LOUISE] ((Jazz)), save, 851.77 854.46 A: [LOUISE] cab, cap, pin, pen. 854.46 857.36 A: [LOUISE] Tour, tore, cheer, chair, 857.36 859.27 A: [LOUISE] big league? 859.07 860.99 A: [LABOV] Yeah. Big league. Now -- and -- 859.27 860.99 A: [LOUISE] Big league. 860.99 862.46 A: [LABOV] and this little bunch there. 862.46 865.94 A: [LOUISE] Let's see. Caught, cot, dog, walk, now. 865.94 868.86 A: [LOUISE] ((around)), doubt, march, +Mary. 868.86 870.05 A: [LABOV] No, Mary, the girl's name. 870.05 871.83 A: [LOUISE] Mary. Harry? 871.83 872.35 A: [LABOV] Yeah. 872.35 875.17 A: [LOUISE] Yeah, Harry, ((pail)), pile. 875.17 878.18 A: [LOUISE] Towel? ((Tile)), ((fowl)), foul. 878.18 883.92 A: [LABOV] Now, over here I wrote some words that sound the same. Now this word, like when you take a tour, 883.92 887.34 A: [LABOV] all right, an- -- (( )) h- -- are those two words -- say those two words there. 887.34 888.99 A: [LOUISE] Tour and tore. 888.99 890.15 A: [LABOV] They sound the same to you? 890.15 891.94 A: [LABOV] Or different? 890.15 891.94 A: [LOUISE] ((Here)) and hair. 891.94 893.80 A: [LABOV] How about this one. Say this one. 893.80 895.12 A: [LOUISE] Here, hair. 895.12 896.58 A: [LABOV] Do they sound the same, or they sound different? 896.58 897.37 A: [LOUISE] Here and hair. 897.37 898.74 A: [LOUISE] Different to me. 898.74 899.33 A: [LABOV] Yeah. 899.33 900.68 A: [LOUISE] Feel and fill. 900.68 901.35 A: [LOUISE] Same. 901.35 902.37 A: [LABOV] Uh-huh. And this one? 902.24 903.49 A: [LOUISE] Four and far. 903.49 905.49 A: [LABOV] They sound the same or different? 905.49 907.12 A: [LOUISE] This one sounds different. 905.49 907.02 A: [LABOV] Just the sound. 907.02 907.78 A: [LABOV] Uh-huh. 907.78 910.51 A: [LOUISE] Let's see, four and far. That's different. 910.51 911.70 A: [LOUISE] Witch. 911.70 912.78 A: [LOUISE] And which. 912.78 914.08 A: [LOUISE] Yeah. 912.78 914.08 A: [LABOV] Those sound the same? 914.08 915.78 A: [LOUISE] These two, and these two, and these. 915.78 916.27 A: [LABOV] Yeah. 916.27 916.99 A: [LOUISE] They sound the same. 916.73 920.09 A: [LABOV] Well, that's really good. Now, I -- see, I um -- 920.09 923.60 A: [LABOV] some of those -- see, I say feel and fill. That's very different. 923.60 924.83 A: [LABOV] You say them the same. 924.64 925.74 A: [LOUISE] Yep. 925.74 926.64 A: [LOUISE] Probably do. 926.64 930.56 A: [LABOV] Yeah. Did you ever try to change ((your)) way of talking? 930.56 935.60 A: [LABOV] Well, do you know anybody who you -- who tries to talk fancy? You know, uh 935.60 938.81 A: [LABOV] (( )) you know, tries to change their talk and impress people while they're talking? 938.81 939.99 A: [LOUISE] Mm, d- no. 939.99 943.37 A: [LOUISE] Not really. Not an- anybody I know now. Course they -- 943.37 946.13 A: [LOUISE] They would be a lot of people down ((here has)) tried to do that. 946.13 946.60 A: [LABOV] Uh-huh. 946.60 950.24 A: [LOUISE] But not nobody I know. We've even got my sister-in-law talking like us. 951.09 952.51 A: [LABOV] Oh, where is she from again? Which ((one)) -- 952.40 953.22 A: [LOUISE] Holland, Michigan. 953.22 954.31 A: [LABOV] Oh yeah, the one from Michigan. 954.02 956.23 A: [LOUISE] Yeah. We got her talking like u- -- 956.23 958.26 A: [LOUISE] Yeah. We got her talking like us, though. 958.13 958.58 A: [LABOV] Is that so? 958.58 959.17 A: [LOUISE] Yep. 959.17 961.72 A: [LOUISE] She go- -- ((goes)) -- 961.72 963.67 A: [LOUISE] She says I'm awful. 963.67 966.52 A: [LOUISE] I don't know, I'm ((t-)) -- I say what I think. 966.52 968.26 A: [LOUISE] And I think what I say. 968.26 969.53 A: [LOUISE] And 969.53 972.49 A: [LOUISE] it just comes out. I don't care where I'm at, it comes out. 972.49 979.22 A: [LABOV] ((Well I know what it was. I heard people say)), uh, this car needs washed. Does that sounds (( )) for you? 979.22 981.12 A: [LABOV] (( )) The car needs washed? 981.12 983.16 A: [LOUISE] You see, that's Jimmy put it. 983.16 989.60 A: [LOUISE] Wash my car. That's they way he get- -- the hell out there and wash my car. That's what he says to his kids. 989.60 992.57 A: [LABOV] The car needs washing. Some people say it needs washed. 993.93 996.11 A: [LABOV] Which would you say? 996.11 998.38 A: [LOUISE] I always tell Charlie his one needs wash. 998.38 999.77 A: [LOUISE] And it does. 999.77 1003.57 A: [LOUISE] I set here and look at his and I say when you going to wash that car. 1003.40 1003.90 A: [LABOV] Uh-huh. 1003.57 1007.28 A: [LOUISE] He says when I get mhm good and ready. That's what he (( )). 1006.39 1011.77 A: [LABOV] ((I got)) a van, too. I have one of these ((Volkswagen)) vans. I don't -- I'm not so happy with it. That's a Dodge? 1011.77 1012.90 A: [LOUISE] Now that's a Ford. 1012.90 1013.54 A: [LABOV] A Ford. 1013.37 1016.14 A: [LOUISE] That's a Ford. It's the reason why it ain't no good. 1016.14 1017.74 A: [LOUISE] It's a Ford. 1017.74 1019.01 A: [LABOV] You're down on Fords, huh? 1019.01 1025.11 A: [LOUISE] Naw, all it needs is a battery. He went out there and put a lot of junk in it ((and then)) uh when he got it in there, it started up and 1025.11 1030.48 A: [LOUISE] Dennis went out there and tried to get some fire out of that battery, and it's gone. So now he has got to go this week, get him a battery. 1030.48 1032.08 A: [LABOV] Uh, it sounds like my problem. 1032.08 1035.35 A: [LOUISE] He has got a cre- -- I mean, he belongs to a credit union over there where he works. 1035.35 1040.82 A: [LOUISE] He is going to try and get enough out get him a car. I told him he is going to fix that van up, though. I can't see no sense in -- 1040.82 1043.61 A: [LOUISE] He buys cars and then he lets them go for nothing. 1043.61 1044.62 A: [LOUISE] Just to get another one. 1044.62 1047.14 A: [LOUISE] And that is stupid. I think. Really. 1047.14 1048.22 A: [LABOV] You drive very much yourself? 1048.22 1049.40 A: [LOUISE] I don't drive at all. 1049.21 1050.40 A: [LABOV] You didn't get a license? 1049.40 1050.40 A: [LOUISE] Mm mm. 1050.40 1051.94 A: [LOUISE] Naw, I ain't never drove. 1051.52 1052.18 A: [LABOV] Huh. 1051.94 1054.45 A: [LOUISE] I always left that driving to somebody else. 1054.45 1055.69 A: [LOUISE] I'm too nervous. 1055.69 1057.25 A: [LOUISE] I wouldn't drive. 1057.25 1059.99 A: [LOUISE] Because I c- -- just like I told you, I run from blood. 1059.99 1061.00 A: [LOUISE] And um 1061.00 1065.81 A: [LOUISE] I know, it's just the least little things just tee me off. And I just d- -- uh-oh, start shaking. 1065.81 1067.44 A: [LOUISE] So I -- I wouldn't 1067.44 1070.58 A: [LOUISE] put nobody else's life in my hands. I'll be honest with you. 1070.58 1072.73 A: [LOUISE] I've always felt that way. If I 1072.73 1075.01 A: [LOUISE] just felt like I just maybe you know 1075.01 1077.14 A: [LOUISE] goof up somewheres ((and I needed to)) try to learn. 1077.14 1080.81 A: [LOUISE] Kids, they tried get me learn years ago. And I tried one time, 1080.81 1087.01 A: [LOUISE] went into a telephone pole, and knock Kay out of the front seat of the car, and I said then no more. 1087.01 1090.93 A: [LOUISE] Because I thought I had killed Kay. She wasn't over about a month old, 1090.93 1093.63 A: [LOUISE] I mean, I didn't do it deliberately. It just -- 1093.63 1099.89 A: [LOUISE] I just lost -- somewhere or another, I just goofed up and hit it, and Momma come out there, and she grabbed Kay out of there. She care about me. Sh- 1099.89 1100.87 A: [LOUISE] grabbed Kay. 1100.87 1104.57 A: [LOUISE] I said, Lord, I could been laying here dead, and Momma would grab Kay. 1104.57 1108.60 A: [LABOV] Yeah, well, that was a bad strategy. You should have tried it by yourself first. 1108.60 1113.58 A: [LOUISE] Yeah. But really, I don't know. I was always the type, though. I didn't went nowheres without my kids. 1113.58 1117.19 A: [LOUISE] My kids always was with me. I don't care if I go to the show. All three went. 1117.19 1122.64 A: [LOUISE] You know, I -- ((today)), really, it does get to me. I watch this younger generation as they come up. 1122.64 1123.76 A: [LOUISE] They can't go n- -- 1123.76 1126.57 A: [LOUISE] Seem like if they go somewheres, they just don't want take those kids. 1126.57 1128.15 A: [LOUISE] They always want a babysitter. 1128.15 1131.46 A: [LOUISE] I don't care who it is, even (( )) my own son, he has got to have a babysitter. 1131.46 1133.18 A: [LOUISE] And usually it winds up being Momma. 1133.18 1135.10 A: [LOUISE] Well, all the time it's me. 1135.10 1136.08 A: [LOUISE] But uh 1136.08 1140.93 A: [LOUISE] I just thinking back. Now um course now his kids goes -- he likes -- if he wants to go 1140.93 1146.78 A: [LOUISE] like nightclub on Saturday nights, he always gives his kids money, let them go show. Takes them, and then he goes and picks them up, brings them home. 1146.78 1155.08 A: [LOUISE] I mean, he- -- ah -- they don't go out and deny their kids. Now don't get me wrong about that. But I'm just, you know, talking about how it used to be, and the way it is now. 1155.08 1159.22 A: [LOUISE] When I went anywheres, I had take my kids. No mat- -- Momma wouldn't keep my kids. 1159.22 1159.71 A: [LABOV] Oh. 1159.71 1160.43 A: [LOUISE] Mm mm. 1160.43 1164.16 A: [LABOV] Well, now, these days, what do you -- you go in the evening. You go wrestling Friday night. 1164.16 1164.92 A: [LOUISE] That's right. 1164.92 1167.55 A: [LABOV] Eh, what about bingo? (( )) 1167.55 1170.54 A: [LOUISE] Naw. (( )) wrestling. I like excitement. 1170.54 1172.65 A: [LOUISE] You know, I'm funny. I got to be where there's noise. 1172.65 1174.47 A: [LABOV] What about boxing? 1174.47 1177.15 A: [LOUISE] No, I don't care anything about boxing. I like wrestling. 1177.15 1180.61 A: [LOUISE] Out there where you can people tell what you think of them, and you can't get arrested. 1181.62 1183.39 A: [LABOV] ((Wow)). So you really let loose? 1181.62 1182.37 A: [LOUISE] There you go. 1183.43 1184.17 A: [LOUISE] Mm, yep. 1184.17 1188.03 A: [LOUISE] I'll tell you what, don't never get behind me if you ever come to wrestling around here. 1187.90 1188.43 A: [LABOV] Oh really? 1188.43 1196.05 A: [LOUISE] Especially when I got -- when two of my guys are in there I'm crazy about and somebody else is in there, because they tell me I get kind of wild out there. 1195.71 1197.36 A: [LABOV] Some people, 1197.36 1201.61 A: [LABOV] they get put off because they say well, it's all show business. 1201.61 1206.72 A: [LOUISE] Well, some of it is. Now, really, I have seen lot of it out there is fake. But there is lot of it that's not fake. 1206.72 1212.85 A: [LOUISE] And uh, well, we been going so long that that boy down there of mine, one of the wrestlers out there run right -- 1212.85 1214.55 A: [LOUISE] He's been trying to get Jimmy into 1214.55 1214.92 A: [LABOV] Oh yeah? 1214.82 1215.36 A: [LOUISE] wrestling. 1215.36 1215.71 A: [LOUISE] Yeah. 1215.36 1216.47 A: [LABOV] Jimmy has got the weight for it. 1216.47 1221.30 A: [LOUISE] Yeah. And he has uh been trying get Jimmy go to a school that he is uh sponsoring hisself, 1221.30 1224.71 A: [LOUISE] and uh this other guy though is one that, you know, trains them. 1224.71 1230.71 A: [LOUISE] And uh we know -- well, we know several of the older wrestlers out there, and they -- you know, we talk to them. They're friends of ours. 1230.71 1233.75 A: [LOUISE] And uh really, it's uh 1233.75 1239.00 A: [LOUISE] I guess it's just like anything else. Like boxing, you got your favorites. Football games, you got your team. 1239.00 1241.60 A: [LABOV] Well, is there a local fellow here that you follow? In wrestling? 1241.34 1245.95 A: [LOUISE] Uh-huh. Ron Fuller, Robert Fuller, Jimmy Golden, any of them is good, we follow them. 1245.95 1247.26 A: [LOUISE] Yep. 1247.26 1249.19 A: [LOUISE] No, we got a whole bunch of them we follow. 1249.19 1251.39 A: [LOUISE] They're our idols, in other words, out here. 1251.39 1252.23 A: [LOUISE] Mhm. 1252.23 1254.12 A: [LABOV] Bet you lose your voice ((just)) hollering, huh? 1254.12 1259.12 A: [LOUISE] Yep. Every Friday night, takes me -- let's see, today's Tuesday? I'm just now getting my voice back. 1259.12 1262.67 A: [LABOV] Well, now, you really get -- Because I see people lose their temper in wrestling. 1262.54 1264.18 A: [LOUISE] Naw, I don't lose my temper. I just --- 1263.68 1266.51 A: [LABOV] I don't mean you do, but the people in the ring look as if they do. 1266.51 1268.72 A: [LOUISE] Oh, yeah. They do. 1268.72 1270.79 A: [LOUISE] And Ron Fuller is world's worst. 1270.79 1271.23 A: [LABOV] Is he? 1271.23 1276.93 A: [LOUISE] He can get ((something)) -- why yeah, he took a thing off of one of the Germans' hands out there last week and beat him to death with it almost. 1276.93 1280.90 A: [LOUISE] Now he has got a temper. He got -- well, he got disqualified for doing what he did. 1280.90 1281.73 A: [LABOV] Oh really? What did he do? 1281.73 1289.34 A: [LOUISE] Well, uh, this guy, he wears -- he claims he has got something wrong with his elbow, but it ain't nothing wrong with his elbow. It's a gimmick. Uh, you know, they all got a gimmick. 1289.34 1294.68 A: [LOUISE] Every one of the wrestlers got their own gimmick. He comes in, it's got plastic in i- -- uh, not plastic, but plaster. 1294.68 1297.92 A: [LOUISE] You know, how you make these things, like a broken leg or anything. 1297.92 1301.65 A: [LOUISE] He got th- -- he ((wormed)) that thing off of his arm some way or another, beat him in (( )) with him. 1301.65 1303.78 A: [LOUISE] Got him outside the ring and beat him with it. 1303.78 1304.17 A: [LABOV] Huh. 1304.17 1308.00 A: [LOUISE] Lost his temper. Now he is one that really loses his temper, is Ron Fuller. 1308.00 1309.48 A: [LOUISE] Stands six nine. 1309.22 1310.06 A: [LABOV] Uh-huh. 1310.19 1312.41 A: [LOUISE] And he is a -- uh he owns it. In other words, 1312.41 1313.65 A: [LOUISE] he has bought it. 1313.65 1315.12 A: [LOUISE] wrestling down here. 1315.12 1317.72 A: [LOUISE] And he has really given us better wrestling than we've ever had. 1317.72 1318.42 A: [LABOV] ((Well,)) he owns ((this)) -- 1318.25 1324.26 A: [LOUISE] Oh, he owns it, boy, he (( )) what he tells them do out there. But boy, and he loses his temper, they all get out of his way. 1323.71 1325.50 A: [LABOV] ((But)) he didn't stop wrestling when he bought it. 1325.50 1327.10 A: [LOUISE] Nope. He still wrestles. 1327.10 1332.04 A: [LOUISE] He is really -- his name is Welch, but ((it's too many of)) the Welches (( )). You might have heard of them. 1332.04 1333.51 A: [LOUISE] Lester and Herb Welch. 1333.51 1333.89 A: [LABOV] Uh-huh. 1333.89 1334.94 A: [LOUISE] ((Uh, Roy and them?)) 1334.94 1338.32 A: [LOUISE] Now, they uh -- they're really uh -- you know, the ones that 1338.32 1341.71 A: [LOUISE] owns it. But he took the name of Fuller because there's so many Welches. 1343.11 1344.80 A: [LABOV] Well, there's just too many Welshes round. 1344.37 1345.05 A: [LOUISE] Yep. 1345.05 1347.22 A: [LOUISE] Too many of the Welches, so they gone Fullers. 1347.22 1348.93 A: [LOUISE] Yeah, I got my favorites. 1348.93 1352.07 A: [LOUISE] And I get -- they say I get real weird out there. 1352.07 1358.36 A: [LOUISE] In fact, I've hollered at a few of the wrestlers, and they come back at me, and Charles gets behind me and (( )) okay, Momma, you asked for that. 1358.36 1360.81 A: [LOUISE] I said, well, I didn't say I didn't. 1360.81 1364.27 A: [LOUISE] Yeah, we get some replies back from them. 1364.27 1368.01 A: [LOUISE] I give them my -- I tell them what I think, they tell me what they think back, so there you are. 1368.01 1371.85 A: [LOUISE] There's one colored dude out there. He'll tickle the devil out of you. 1371.85 1374.21 A: [LOUISE] Uh, he calls hisself the black dog. 1374.21 1379.51 A: [LOUISE] That's what he calls his own self now. We don't call him that. He does. But he wears these um 1379.51 1380.65 A: [LOUISE] you know, 1380.65 1382.62 A: [LOUISE] he tries to be one of these ((jive)) 1382.62 1385.94 A: [LOUISE] you know, one these guys, you know, with those big broad brim hats. 1385.94 1386.62 A: [LABOV] Oh yeah. 1386.62 1388.32 A: [LOUISE] He always wears a yellow one. 1388.32 1391.87 A: [LOUISE] (( )) he has got a green one, and he has got a blood-red one. 1391.87 1392.32 A: [LABOV] Uh-huh. 1392.32 1396.95 A: [LOUISE] So last week, setting out there, he come in. I said another durn penny and you'd got your red hat. 1396.95 1401.22 A: [LOUISE] He said, it's my damn business. I said, it might be your damn business, but I'm telling you about it. 1401.22 1408.16 A: [LOUISE] And everybody out there got to going on that. Some guy tried to get his red hat, and boy he slapped fire out of him. Now they'll fight you back out there. 1408.16 1414.22 A: [LOUISE] And my daughter-in-law one time I ((laughed at that girl, I swear I c- --)) I cracked up. There's one guy out there. 1414.22 1419.80 A: [LOUISE] Now he did -- they d- -- they just got to where they'd beat on that poor guy every time he'd go in for a fight, go in the ring on him. 1419.80 1420.36 A: [LABOV] Really? 1420.12 1423.52 A: [LOUISE] It's a wonder Ron- -- Ronnie Garvin even had sense enough to wrestle. 1423.52 1424.51 A: [LOUISE] Be honest with you. 1424.51 1431.87 A: [LOUISE] He come up through there, and he just (( )). My daughter-in-law, she was coming (( )) one way to go and that was jump. 1431.87 1434.22 A: [LOUISE] And if ((she would've)) jump, she would killed herself. 1434.22 1439.73 A: [LOUISE] And I got tickled at her. She said you going to sit there? I said, if he hits me, God help him, I'll get up here and I'll hit him back. 1439.73 1441.62 A: [LOUISE] Ah, but I said where are you going, Betty? 1441.62 1446.99 A: [LOUISE] She said, this a way. I said, you ain't got but one way to go, and that's jump off of that. And I said, if you do, you're going to die. 1446.99 1449.69 A: [LOUISE] I said I ain't going down there catch you. You come off ((from)) there. 1449.69 1452.31 A: [LOUISE] And everybody up there we d- -- ah, really, she was 1452.31 1455.60 A: [LOUISE] hilarious. Just sat there and watched that young one trying to get off that rail. 1455.60 1457.41 A: [LOUISE] And we don't know where she was going. 1457.41 1460.59 A: [LOUISE] She getting away from Ronnie Garvin, though, because he was a wrestler and (( )) -- 1460.59 1462.70 A: [LOUISE] Only way she could go was jump. 1462.70 1463.46 A: [LABOV] Mm. 1463.46 1468.86 A: [LOUISE] And I was just setting there, and she said, you going to set there? I said I ain't moving. They know better than to hit. They know who to hit and n- -- 1468.50 1469.79 A: [LABOV] Do you have a regular seat? 1469.79 1471.95 A: [LOUISE] Naw. I just sit in general admission. 1471.95 1474.69 A: [LOUISE] I don't get (( )) close to the ring. If I did, I would get killed. 1474.69 1475.12 A: [LABOV] Oh really? 1475.12 1475.74 A: [LOUISE] Yep. 1475.74 1478.13 A: [LOUISE] No. The kids won't let me get that close. 1478.13 1481.83 A: [LOUISE] I ain't about get somewheres where I'm going to get slapped back. 1481.83 1486.77 A: [LOUISE] Because I know I'm going to say what I'm going to say. Because sometimes when it's all quiet out there, I say it and I hear it anyhow, so. 1486.77 1488.24 A: [LABOV] Well, they can hear you from where you are? 1488.24 1488.93 A: [LOUISE] Yeah. 1488.93 1491.36 A: [LOUISE] They ((can hear)) you anywheres from out there. 1491.36 1498.93 A: [LOUISE] No, really, I do. I get real excited anything like that. But that's what I like. Now, back when Elvis Presley, you know when he came out ((was a)) sensation? 1498.93 1499.20 A: [LABOV] Uh-huh. 1499.20 1501.13 A: [LOUISE] Yeah. I didn't miss a show of his one. 1503.07 1504.17 A: [LOUISE] That's my idol.